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PAGE 4  March 18, 2009

MIT Tech Talk

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 RESEARCH & INNOVATION

MIT Professor Richard Hynes discusses the impact of Presi-

dent Barack Obama’s recent announcement that the federal 

government will expand its funding of certain types of embryon-

ic stem cell research. Hynes, the Daniel K. Ludwig Professor for 

Cancer Research at the David H. Koch Institute for Integrative 

Cancer Research at MIT and a Howard Hughes Medical Insti-

tute Investigator, served on the National Academy of Science 

committees that established the current Guidelines for Human 

Embryonic Stem Cell Research.

Q. What will be the most immediate 

impact(s) of the new stem cell rules 

for scientists, including those at MIT?

A. The Obama announcement will 

allow many more researchers, includ-

ing some at MIT, to conduct research 

on well-characterized human embry-

onic stem (hES) cell lines. The 20 or 

so lines on which the Bush adminis-

tration allowed NIH funding are early 

lines prepared and maintained in ways 

that leave much to be desired, both 

scientifically and ethically, but they 

were until now the only ones on which most people could 

work. Since 2001, researchers with access to non-federal 

funding have developed many new lines using improved 

techniques and better and more ethical informed consent 

procedures. There are estimated to be hundreds of such 

lines. Once the NIH has reviewed which of those lines are 

deemed acceptable for distribution and for federal funding 

of research using them, many of them will become avail-

able to all scientists to study. MIT scientists are working 

on methods to develop hES cells for therapeutic purposes, 

and they will now have more and better lines to analyze. 

There is a great deal of research needed to work out how 

to coax hES cells into different cell types and how to use 

them for research and therapy — that necessary research 

has been impeded by the Bush administration policy and 

will now be much enhanced. What the Obama announce-

ment does not do is allow federal funding for the devel-

opment of any new hES cell lines. That is precluded by 

current congressional legislation and will require action 

by the House and Senate to change the law. Such a 

change seems rather unlikely in the near future. However, 

development of new lines can continue with non-federal 

funding and they can presumably be made available for 

NIH-funded research.



Q. How will your own research be affected?

A. My own research will not be affected — I do not work 

on human ES cells. That is one of the reasons I was able 

to serve on the National Academy of Science commit-

tees that established the current Guidelines for Human 

Embryonic Stem Cell Research. Some of those guidelines 

(the ones concerning use of existing lines) will presum-

ably be incorporated into the NIH regulations. However, 

the NAS guidelines will still be needed to guide research 

practices on aspects not eligible for federal funding such 

as making new lines from IVF embryos or by nuclear 

transfer.

Q. What potential long-term impacts do you see, in 

terms of better understanding and/or treatment of human 

disease?

A. The promise of human stem cells will only be real-

ized after a lot of hard work by many scientists. The pace 

of research has been slowed by the Bush-era restrictions 

— the new rules will allow more research to be done by 

more people on more and better hES cell lines. That will 

undoubtedly speed the development of our understanding 

and applications of stem cells. Stem cells offer promise 

both for deeper understanding of disease processes and for 

the testing of drugs that may ameliorate such diseases, as 

well as the prospects for actual therapeutic applications of 

stem cells and of cells and tissues derived from them.

Q. Have recent advances in reprogramming adult stem 

cells to an embryonic state made embryonic stem cell 

research less important? Or is it important to pursue both 

areas of research?



A. The recent advances on reprogramming of adult cells 

to a pluripotent state (capable of developing into many cell 

types) are very exciting and there is hope that they may 

eventually be an alternative source. However, we do not 

yet understand reprogramming and it is very inefficient. 

So we currently need to pursue investigation of multiple 

approaches — both embryonic and adult stem cells as well 

as induced pluripotent stem cells. The chances are that 

each will have some applications and we cannot be sure yet 

which will prove the most useful in the long run.



Richard

Hynes

Q&A 

with Richard Hynes

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PHOTO COURTESY NIH.GOV



A human embryonic stem (hES) cell colony on a 

mouse embryonic fibroblast (MEF) feeder layer.

Modern manufacturing methods are 

spectacularly inefficient in their use of 

energy and materials, according to a 

detailed MIT analysis of the energy use of 

20 major manufacturing processes.

Overall, new manufacturing systems are 

anywhere from 1,000 to one million times 

bigger consumers of energy, per pound of 

output, than more traditional industries. In 

short, pound for pound, making micro-

chips uses up orders of magnitude more 

energy than making manhole covers.

At first glance, it may seem strange to 

make comparisons between such widely 

disparate processes as metal casting 

and chip making. But Professor Timo-

thy Gutowski of MIT’s Department 

of Mechanical Engineering, who led 

the analysis, explains that such a broad 

comparison of energy efficiency is an 

essential first step toward optimizing these 

newer manufacturing methods as they gear 

up for ever-larger production.

“The seemingly extravagant use of 

materials and energy resources by many 

newer manufacturing processes is alarming 

and needs to be addressed alongside claims 

of improved sustainability from products 

manufactured by these means,” Gutowksi 

and his colleagues say in their conclusion 

to the study, which was recently published 

in the journal Environmental Science and 

Technology (ES&T).

Gutowksi notes that manufacturers 

have traditionally been more concerned 

about factors like price, quality, or cycle 

time, and not as concerned over how much 

energy their manufacturing processes use. 

This latter issue will become more impor-

tant, however, as the new industries scale 

up — especially if energy prices rise again 

or if a carbon tax is adopted, he says. 

Solar panels are a good example. Their 

production, which uses some of the same 

manufacturing processes as microchips 

but on a large scale, is escalating dramati-

cally. The inherent inefficiency of current 

solar panel manufacturing methods could 

drastically reduce the technology’s lifecycle 

energy balance — that is, the ratio of the 

energy the panel would produce over its 

useful lifetime to the energy required to 

manufacture it.

The new study is just “the first step 

in doing something about it,” Gutowski 

says — understanding which processes are 

most inefficient and need further research 

to develop less energy-intensive alterna-

tives. For example, many of the newer 

processes involve vapor-phase processing 

(such as sputtering, in which a material is 

vaporized in a vacuum chamber so that it 

deposits a coating on an exposed surface in 

that chamber), which is usually much less 

efficient than liquid phase (such as deposit-

ing a coating from a liquid solution), but 

liquid processing alternatives might be 

developed. 

The study covered everything “from 

soup to nuts” in terms of standard indus-

trial methods, Gutowski says, “from 

heavy-duty old fashioned industries like a 

cast-iron foundry, all the way up to semi-

conductors and nanomaterials.” It includes 

injection molding, sputtering, carbon 

nanofiber production and dry etching, 

along with more traditional machining, 

milling, drilling and melting. There were 

some boundaries on the processes studied, 

however: The researchers did not analyze 

production of pharmaceuticals or petro-

leum, and they only looked primarily at 

processes where electricity was the primary 

energy source.

The figures the team derived are actu-

ally conservative, Gutowski says, because 

they did not include some significant 

energy costs such as the energy required 

to make the materials themselves or the 

energy required to maintain the environ-

ment of the plant (such as air conditioning 

and filtration for clean rooms used in semi-

conductor processing). “All these things 

would make [the energy costs] worse,” he 

says.

The bottom line is that “new processes 



are huge users of materials and energy,” 

he says. Because some of these processes 

are so new, “they will be optimized and 

improved over time,” he says. But as things 

stand now, over the last several decades as 

traditional processes such as machining 

and casting have increasingly given way to 

newer ones for the production of semicon-

ductors, MEMS and nano-materials and 

devices, for a given quantity of output “we 

have increased our energy and materi-

als consumption by three to six orders of 

magnitude.”

One message from the study is that 

“claims that these technologies are going 

to save us in some way need closer scrutiny. 

There’s a significant energy cost involved 

here,” he says. And another is that “each of 

these processes could be improved,” and 

using the analytical tools developed by the 

MIT team for this study would be a useful 

first step in such a detailed analysis.

In addition to Gutowski, the study 

was done by current and former MIT 

mechanical engineering students Matthew 

Branham, Jeffrey Dahmus, Alissa Jones 

and Alexandre Thiriez, and Dusan Sekulic, 

professor of mechanical engineering at the 

University of Kentucky.  It was funded by 

the National Science Foundation.

MANUFACTURING INEFFICIENCY

Study sees ‘alarming’ use of energy, materials in newer manufacturing processes



David Chandler

News Office

Mechanical Engineering 

Professor Timothy Gutowski led 

a study showing that modern 

manufacturing methods are 

highly inefficient in their use of 

energy and materials.

 

PHOTO / DONNA COVENEY




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