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>> >>> This is a question about putting up banners in >>> AA meeting rooms, with the 12 Steps, 12 Traditions, >>> and 12 Concepts written on them. >>> >>> I'm from an AA group in Brisbane, Australia .... >>> >>> An old timer and very knowledgeable member >>> advised that banners can be confusing to newcomers >>> (e.g Step 6 and what is written on Step 6 in >>> 12x12 two different things Tradition 3 etc.). >>>
>>> He also claimed that Bill W can be quoted as >>> saying that he was against the banners. >>> >>> I have never read or heard this before. I have >>> dozens of books and AA info on AA history and >>> Bill W, and have been unable to find any info >>> on this. >>>
>>> Thanking you >>> Kind Regards Denise >>> Member Brisbane Traditions Group >>> Australia >>>
Concert
From: Bill Lash . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/10/2010 6:21:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII This goes WAY outside of the parameters of what's allowed to be sent out to this group. Please read the guidelines again. Thank you.
Barefoot Bill -----Original Message----- From: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Stockholm Fellowship Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 9:47 AM To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Call Out for Bands for EURYPAA Concert EURYPAA 2010 Stockholm is currently seeking submissions for its Friday Night Sunset Concert! If you, your band, or someone you know, would like to be considered for the lineup, please email Matt D at archiedohman@yahoo.com a link to your music, or send a song in the mail. It's all in service, fun and fellowship for the EURYPAA conference, so there will be no compensation -- However, a table will be provided to get info out about the acts performing.
eaters, etc, to do entreacts while bands are setting up and breaking down. Thanks, Matt D
Co-Chair of Friday night entertainment for EURYPAA 2010 archiedohman@yahoo.com Spread the Word! The 1st Annual All-Europe Young People in A.A. Convention will be hosted by Stockholm, Sweden, July 23-25, 2010. More information at www.EURYPAA.org/2010
and Bob
From: nuevenueve@ymail.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/9/2010 7:28:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hello Group, just a fact to know: In some Countries (mainly in those very anthropologically linked to ancestral religious and political leadership imagery), one finds pictures of both Bill W. and Dr. Bob on the AA meeting rooms' walls, or even their figurines in carved wood. Don't know what Bill & Bob would have thought about this, but it just happens. - - - - From the moderator: compare Message 4497 "Saints With Glasses: Mexican Catholics in Alcoholics Anonymous" http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/4497 "I confess all my errors to the priest since it's the most mortal sin to receive the Lord without confessing all. Here too I have to confess all my errors. Here they talk to us of good things. When I came here and saw the pictures of the founders, I thought, 'I've never seen a saint with glasses before!'"
Displaying the portraits of the founders above the lectern echoed the placement of saints' images in a Catholic church. For this man, his A.A. colleagues were confessors and Bill W. and Dr. Bob his saints." IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6327. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Looking for websites with archival preservation information From: ricktompkins . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/10/2010 8:59:00 PM
extraordinary AA Archives portal. The AA Archives at the General Service Office in NYC recommends the Society of American Archivists. Located in Chicago, Illinois it is a massive resource for conservation methods, ethics, and continued study. SAA also has membership offers allowing discounted books and a wealth of information. SAA is truly a fellowship for both professionals and any of us in the AA Fellowship with the desire for preservation study and the knack for conservation.
Gaylord Brothers out of Syracuse, New York. Out of about five companies, it has the best prices for materials and its customer service is excellent. Materials are relatively expensive but worthwhile, and it has basic books and pamphlets about conservation methods.
from a 'private' website, and I'd consider them "advertisements" if I saw them on an AA History web page.
These two are my personal favorites! Yours in fellowship, Rick, Illinois IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6328. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Dropkick Murphy''s in Jack Mc.''s poem Drunks From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/10/2010 8:50:00 PM
a doctor) was a professional wrestler who came back east to the Boston area from California ca 1939-40, and according to reminiscences by one Eddie Costello (b. 1928) who watched him wrestle in the early '40s, he happened "on the side" to maintain a "dry-out" farm for alcoholics, I believe at Bellows Farm in Massachusetts (ad as early as 1942, property finally sold in 1973).
From: "stevec012000" (steven.calderbank at verizon.net) Dropkick Murphy's was supposedly a rehab center in oldtime Boston (I believe). There is a Celtic Rock band named that as well. Here is an article where they make small mention of it:
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- - - - From the moderator, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropkick_Murphys "Dropkick Murphys are an American Celtic punk/ hardcore punk band formed in Quincy, Massachusetts. There are differing stories as to the origin of the band's name. Former band member Marc Orrell has said:"
you don't go to sleep tonight. It's a rehab center, I think it's in Connecticut. I think it was the guy who used to come around late at night for all the drunks, like if you were too drunk to drive home, he would come and get you and put you in this hole that you couldn't get out until you were sober enough, I don't know. There's a bunch a stories, it's also a boxer, a bunch of things, a rehab center in Connecticut, grandparents used to scare kids with it."
the poem which said: > We went to doctors and they gave us stuff to take > that would make us sick when we drank > on the principle of so crazy, it just might work, I guess > or maybe they just shook their heads > and sent us places like Dropkick Murphy's > and when we got out we were hooked on paraldehyde > or maybe we lied to the doctors > and they told us not to drink so much > just drink like me > and we tried > and we died
From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/10/2010 5:30:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII "Who am I to say there is no God." was said by John Henry Fitzhugh Mayo. It's in the book on 2 different pages. Both He and Jimmy Burwell attended the same Episcopal Academy in Va. Fitz's father was a Episcopal minister educated in Princeton ministering in Cumberstone Md. Interestingly , One re-found his religion and one remained agnostic, but both were friends for life and stopped drinking using Alcoholics Anonymous. They are buried only feet apart from each other in that beautiful church in Cumberstone. The following statement from the Albany Episcopal diocese explains the use of Reason. I think it ironic that the three legged stool is also used in AA. Rethinking the Three-Legged Stool by The Rev. Dr. Canon Christopher Brown What makes Anglicanism unique? An earlier generation of Anglicans replied, "Nothing at all. We are a 'bridge church' with a vocation to draw all churches together. We hold nothing that is distinct and uniquely Anglican; our
beliefs and practices are simply those that are common to the universal Church."
ascribe an absolute authority to Scripture. At the same time, Anglicanism rejects the absolute claims of an infallible papacy. Anglicanism is distinct in its reliance on the 'Three-Legged Stool of Scripture, Reason, and Tradition." Attributed to the 16th century English writer, Richard Hooker, the "Three-Legged Stool" has become the essential feature of a distinct "Anglican Ethos." Its popularity appears to lie in the manner in which it functions to exclude any form of religious "absolutism." Neither the Bible, nor the authority or the Church, nor the reasoning intellect can claim the last word, but together they offer a balanced way to discern the will of God. Yours in Service, Shakey Mike Gwirtz Hardcore Group BTW there will be a AA Conference "Love and Service" 12-5 Feb 20,2010 in Perry Hall Baptist Church 3919 Schroeder Ave Perry Hall MD 21128 USA(outside Baltimore MD) The 1st portion 9-10 AM is History and Archives IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6330. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Banners with the steps, traditions, and concepts From: James Blair . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/10/2010 11:53:00 PM
> placards portraying the 36 spiritual principles he himself authored. The first banners on roll up window shades were produced in the New York area and they were titled "Twelve Suggested Steps." Also, cards and other local literature was printed in this manner. This was probably in the 1945-46 period. Bill was opposed to the title "Twelve Suggested Steps" and twice delegates to the General Service Conference put forward conference actions to change the title from Twelve Steps to Twelve Suggested Steps and their proposed actions were rejected. I had read a couple of letters in the early GV's on this subject and I brought it up with Frank M.(archivist) on a trip to GSO and he explained it to me.
archival preservation information From: Mike Breedlove . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/11/2010 12:55:00 PM
of Congress (LOC), the Northeast Document Conservation Center (NEDCC), the Foundation of the American Institute for Conservation (FAIC), and the National
Archives (NARA). Following is a selected list. One of the best preservation sites is Preservation 101 - http://www.nedcc.org/education/online.php As the introduction states - Preservation 101 is a comprehensive self-paced online course that focuses on the
preservation of paper collections and related formats. Participants will learn
about the basics of preservation in the context of small and moderately-sized library or archival collections â“ how to identify deteriorated materials, how to properly care for collections, and how to set priorities for preservation. A primary goal of this course is to enable you to gather the information needed
for a general preservation planning survey of your institution, and to that end,
several tools have been devised to assist you in using this course effectively. Once on the Preservation 101 home page, be sure to click on âBefore You Beginâ for an introduction to the many facets of this program. Related to it is the COOL site for professional conservators, but that provides
much useful information for the lay person. It is located at - http://cool.conservation-us.org/ The following Wikipedia site is a useful overview - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preservation_(library_and_archival_science) The following syllabus contains several URL references and itself offers a good
overview - http://ischool.umd.edu/courses/2009/LBSC%20786%20Cybulski%20Fall%202008.pdf Take care, Mike B, Prattville, Alabama Area One Archivist
From: john wikelius To: mike breedlove Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 05:07 PM Subject: Fw: [AAHistoryLovers] Looking for websites with archival preservation information
From: mrpetesplace To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, February 6, 2010 11:31:30 AM Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Looking for websites with archival preservation information
I can help make available for preservation of archival material? I would like to provide this information on my own site with links. Does anyone have such information on their own area's site to assist other members? Thank you. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6332. . . . . . . . . . . . LSD and alcoholism treatment From: jenny andrews . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/14/2010 12:20:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Letter to the British Medical Journal, 11 June 1966: The recent notoriety given
to LSD in the press has led to its withdrawal by Sandoz from the market. In carefully selected cases we found the drug to be a helpful adjunct to psychotherapy. LSD can be made by any competent chemist, and is apparently being
prepared by a few individuals for private distribution. Sandoz, up to the time
of the drug's withdrawal, restricted its distribution to psychiatric institutions or carefully vetted individual psychiatrists. It will be unfortunate if LSD becomes available only for "kicks" and not for serious psychotherapeutic endeavour. (Signed by four doctors at West Park hospital, Epsom, Surrey UK).
hospital, Worcestershire, UK, which reported favorable results when treating alcoholics and others with LSD - see www.idmu.co.uk/lsd.htm
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From: nuevenueve@ymail.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/12/2010 1:10:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hello Group: There's a study considering some sociological and cultural influences inside and
around AA in several Countries/Cultures, it was published by The Wisconsin University Press and is entitled "Alcoholics Anonymous As A Mutual-Help: A Study In Eight Societies". Could you please reccomend some other papers alike? Thank you. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6334. . . . . . . . . . . . Trysh Travis, new book, Language of the Heart: Cultural History From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/14/2010 6:07:00 PM
Alcoholics Anonymous to Oprah Winfrey (Chapel Hill, North Carolina: University of North Carolina Press, 2009). http://www.rorotoko.com/index.php/article/trysh_travis_book_interview_langua ge_h\
In a nutshell My book is about that loosely defined cultural phenomenon known as "the recovery
movement" -- an agglomeration of self-help groups and practices that have grown
out of Alcoholics Anonymous since its founding in 1935. Although most people know someone who is or has been "in recovery," most people are also a little vague about what that means. That vagueness has allowed critics -- both conservative and progressive -- to caricature the recovery movement as narcissistic, banal, and apolitical. The Language of the Heart is intended to show that recovery is a diverse and evolving phenomenon whose complex history reflects the shifting ideas about gender and power that characterize contemporary America.
from AA
-- which began as an alcohol-focused, evangelical Christian, and resolutely masculine sub-culture -- to Oprah Winfrey, a self-proclaimed "food addict" and survivor of childhood sexual abuse who espouses a healing metaphysical spirituality to millions of women around the globe. Most recovery publications come from the margins of polite print culture. Rather than the products of professionally credentialed authors writing in the pages of esteemed journals, many of recovery's central ideas appeared first in obscure pamphlets, self-published tracts, and the textbooks of the addiction treatment industry. None of these are usually considered "serious" literature. But both the writing
and the reading of such materials is an extremely serious matter for many recovering people. The wide angle Two phenomena led me to this project. A number of people close to me are recovering addicts of one sort or another, and when I attended meetings with them I noticed that books featured prominently in their meetings. Alcoholics Anonymous, written by one of AA's co-founders and usually called "the Big Book," was the most prominent. But people also carried with them daily devotional readers published by AA, Al-Anon (the organization for friends and families of alcoholics), and treatment centers like Hazelden. That's not something you often see in depictions of AA or NA (Narcotics Anonymous) in film or on TV; there, a 12-Step meeting is only about people talking. But in the meetings I attended people often referred to their books as they talked, highlighted and annotated passages that mattered to them, and engaged in long debates over what a passage or a phrase might mean. As a literature teacher, these are habits I try to inculcate in my students (not usually with much success), and I wanted to find out how and why people in recovery were so intense about their reading. At the same time that I was thinking about reading within 12-Step groups, I started to notice an increasing number of popular novels aimed at women that seemed to offer some version of recovery's central ideas. Powerlessness, forgiveness, the importance of self-love and of "keeping it simple"; these were all values that I was hearing espoused in meetings, and they were also popping up in mid-list fiction -- not only Oprah books, but "serious" titles like Michael Cunningham's The Hours and bestsellers like Rebecca Wells's Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood. This made me curious about how recovery ideas had migrated out of the church basements where meetings were held and into the popular imagination. There's a lot at stake in that migration, I think. When a person goes to AA, declares, "I am powerless over alcohol," and reads daily from the Big Book to get instructions on how to live so as to remain sober, she has made a conscious decision to adopt a set of mental habits -- a worldview, if you want to call it that -- because she wants to change her life. Few people sit down with a novel thinking, "I want to get some lessons in how to change my life from this book." But the novels I was seeing had a powerful didactic streak. Through traditional sentimental plots involving mothers and children, they were urging readers not so much to quit using alcohol or drugs (though a few of them made that case in passing), but to quit demanding satisfaction from contemporary consumer capitalist American society, to admit they were powerless over their own Yüklə 25,47 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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