(Ken)
Hideo
Could you give me a brief description about peer relations and friendships in your class and school?
Ken
Well, in my class, some pupils often misbehave, but boys and girls have good supportive relationships.
Hideo
What do you mean some pupils misbehave?
Ken
During the class, some pupils ignore the teachers and speak to other pupils…like that
Hideo
But pupils have good relationships, is that right?
Ken
Pupils have good relations.
They are always talking with others who sit in the next seat.
Hideo
So pupils are talking with other pupils and keep communicating with each other, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Well, could you explain the reason why you choose to be a peer supporter?
Ken
When I was a primary school pupil, I became a class representative.
Then I wanted to do something in the secondary school as well.
Hideo
Ohhh….. did you enjoy being a class representative?
Ken
Yes. I could learn many things in various ways
Hideo
Well, you thought if you became a peer supporter, you would learn many things again, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
I see. You like to look after others, is that right?
Ken
Probably, I think so.
Hideo
You must be nervous….
It seems tough to speak in front of people, is that right?
Ken
True. I was very shy... but gradually I get used to do it.
Hideo
Ahhh. You mean you were not good at speaking in front of people, is that right?
Ken
Yes. I was the worst at speaking in front of people.
Hideo
Hahaha. I understand.
You have been a peer supporter for a year now, haven’t you.
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Well, How do you feel when you are doing peer support?
Ken
I feel satisfaction. When we could decide various things after discussion with other pupils, I am so satisfied with what I did.
Hideo
I see.
You feel you did something good, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
What I said is right?
Ken
You are right.
Hideo
If what I say is not correct, please let me know.
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Your comments are very important, so please share any thoughts with me.
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Well, could you explain to me how does peer support contribute to the improvement of the school ethos?
Ken
Depending on pupils…. ….but some pupils start feeling they want to contribute to the local society.
Hideo
Did you have cleaning campaigns in the local areas?
Ken
We have done in the school, but the previous time, we had it in the local park.
I believe our cleaning campaign was held to contribute to the local area which supports us.
We do cleaning in the school, because we make a mess in our school. So we need to take responsibility for it.
Probably, many pupils feel the same, thus they would like to join the cleaning.
Hideo
I see
Ken
Also it seems to be the time for us to reconsider our behaviours.
Hideo
Reconsider means, pupils reflect on their behaviours, is that right?
Ken
Yes. Well….. many pupils make mess in the school. I feel that is not good.
We should not make messy.
Hideo
I see. Pupils can have the opportunities to reflect on their behaviours, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
I see. I understand.
Could you explain the reason why other pupils do not want to be a peer supporter?
Ken
If the pupils try to do it, I believe they can do it. But everyone feels shy about it.
Pupils need to actively……….. well…..I am sorry, what was the question?
Hideo
Could you explain the reason why other pupils do not want to be a peer supporter?
Ken
The main reason is they feel shy when they take actions as a peer supporter.
Hideo
The main reason is shyness, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Do you think everyone is willing to do something good?
Ken
Many pupils are willing to do something good, but there are only a few pupils who are able to put their feelings into actions.
Hideo
Is that because of shyness?
Ken
Probably, I think so.
Hideo
Is that a difference? Do you think so?
Ken
I think so.
Hideo
How about peer supporters encouraging the pupils to overcome their shyness?
Ken
Even if peer supporters encouraged the pupils, probably they would not take actions.
But if the pupils are continuously encouraged, maybe they will join the activities.
Hideo
Friends encourage the pupils, just like ….“just try it, just try it”, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
I see. I understand
Well, are there any differences between pupils who actively join the activities, and pupils who are not active in joining the activities?
Ken
I think there are some differences…..
Hideo
What are the differences?
Ken
Well, maybe some pupils want to contribute to something good for other people. Thus
These pupils would like to actively join……….
Hideo
Take it easy………we have plenty of time for interview.
Ken
Sorry, what was a question?
Hideo
Are there any differences between pupils who actively join the activities, and pupils who are not active in joining the activities?
Ken
Ahhh. As you know……….as I mentioned, if pupils wanted to contribute to something good…..if they have grateful feelings towards others, they would make efforts and take actions. If pupils do not have grateful feelings towards others, they would not make efforts to work for others.
Thus, anyone would join the activities, if they have grateful feelings towards others.
Hideo
I see.
Well, you mean any pupils who have grateful feelings towards others…. they would take actions if there are opportunities for them to...is that right?
Ken
If there are some opportunities, they would do it.
Hideo
Peer supporters are always working for others even if there are no opportunities…..
Ken
Well……. But even pupils who do not actively take actions, would do something if they really want to do something good.
Hideo
Well, pupils who generally do not actively take actions, are not thinking about contributing to others, is that right?
Ken
Well, when pupils speak in front of people, pupils would be ashamed….
Also the pupils do not want to be blamed by others…..
Hideo
Is it important how pupils are seen by others?
Ken
Yes, it seems very important.
Hideo
How important?
Ken
When pupils share their ideas or opinions, they may be told by others “what you said is not right!” then, the next time the pupils hesitate to share their ideas.
Hideo
I understand what you are saying. I see.
For the secondary school pupils, it seems very important how they are seen by others….
The pupils worry about others’ opinions.
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
What I said is not right?
Ken
Yes, you are right. Well, the pupils tend to take others’ opinions to heart.
Hideo
I understand.
Well, do you think the school needs to have peer support systems?
Ken
As you know……..if we always rely on teachers, there might be a risk that our school life will deteriorate.
If only teachers decide many things of our school life without listening to pupils’ opinions, pupils would not want to do what teachers say……..
If pupils discussed and made the plans, other pupils would tend to listen more obediently to what the pupils said.
Hideo
Ahah….. I see. Is that true that pupils tend to listen to other pupils’ opinions who are from the same generation, compared to listening to adults’ opinions?
Ken
Occasionally pupils doubt whether teachers are right or not.
Hideo
I see.
Ken
Some pupils often doubt what teachers say…… …. But pupils tend to follow the ideas and opinions of other pupils, because they are the pupils as well.
Hideo
I see. Pupils tend to listen to what other pupils said.
Is that because other pupils are from the same generation?
Ken
Yes, that is true.
Hideo
What I said is right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
If what I said is not right, please let me know.
I need your help to check my comments are right or not.
Because now I am an adult as well.
I see
In terms of their feelings and opinions, do you think there are some differences between teachers and pupils?
Ken
I think their opinions are a slightly different.
Teachers tend to say they feel the same ways as we (pupils) feel. But in terms of pupils’ views, pupils doubt whether teachers just pretend to share the same feelings as pupils feel or not.
Hideo
Do you think teachers are not able to understand pupils’ issues, like relationships among pupils, pupils’ feelings?
Ken
Ahhh….. as you know various pupils have their individualities. But teachers tend to ignore our individualities, and treat us as a mass (all together).
Therefore, I want teachers to respect our individualities and talk to us carefully.
I believe teachers do not know understand our individualities and teachers need to clean up their behaviours.
Hideo
Well, pupils want teachers to respect and listen to pupils’ opinions, is that right?
Ken
Think about………. ……….pupils’ opinions are very different depending on the pupil.
If teachers talk to pupils one-sidedly, some pupils would think what teachers said is not right.
Hideo
You mean teachers need to make a compromise with pupils, otherwise even if teachers talked to pupils, the pupils would not listen properly, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Pupils want teachers to understand pupils’ feelings and thoughts first of all, then teachers need to talk to pupils, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
I see.
Well, it seems like the teachers are not able to understand some parts of pupils’ life.
Well, do you have any idea how to improve current peer support activities?
If you have, could you explain to me?
Ken
…………………
Hideo
What is your ideal situations?
Ken
Situation like……..pupils are able to manage their school life without teachers’ advice.
Hideo
By pupils?
Ken
We pupils would like to manage our things……..
Hideo
You mean pupils take their own initiative and carry out their things by themselves, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
In short, pupils take their initiative to manage their things and try to stand on their own feet, is that right?
Ken
Yes
Hideo
Am I right? If what I said is not right, please let me know.
Ken
Yes. We pupils need to decide things to do, but…….. ….
often teachers give us advice….. ……. But….we pupils need to listen to what other pupils want to do, then we pupils have to decide what we need to do.
This means pupils take the initiative for their own activities.
Hideo
You want to accept and reflect other pupils’ opinions, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
You want to listen to more opinions from other pupils, is that right?
So you believe this is the way to improve the activities, is that right?
Ken
Well, ….. for example, generally when peer supporters have decided something, peer supporters often asked teachers for their advice.
But rather than asking teachers, peer supporters ask other pupils to share their opinions. Then if they gave many positive comments, we pupils try to carry out the things.
So rather asking teachers about their opinions, we need to ask other pupils.
Hideo
You have often asked teachers for their opinions about your plans, is that right?
Ken
I have been asking teachers for their advice, but I want to take the initiative to carry out our things.
Hideo
You often asked the teachers for their opinions when you did your activities, is that right?
Also, you, peer supporters want accept and reflect other pupils’ opinions, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Then, your activities would really be peer-led activities, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
I see
Well, if you have had a good experience as a peer supporter, could you tell me?
Ken
As you know. Before joining the peer support team, I hesitated to give advice to other pupils……..
Hideo
Why?
Ken
I would feel bad when other pupils said to me “I cannot do that”…
Hideo
Ahhhh. You are frightened to be refused by others, is that right?
Ken
Yes, but when I needed more pupils, I was able to contact many pupils and ask them to join the activities.
Hideo
You talk about your activities, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
You became more active, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
What I said is right?
Ken
Yes, you are right.
Hideo
You became more active than before, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
For example, how did you change yourself?
Ken
…………….
I became more active……. …as you know, my own opinions are……
I used not to think about my own idea and opinions much, but now I seriously think about my own opinions and actively share them with other pupils.
Hideo
That is a great change. Because if you do not share your thoughts, no one knows your opinions.
Do you have any other good experience as a peer supporter?
Ken
Sometimes, when I discussed the things with other peer supporters, I often received negative comments, ….like…”what you are saying is not right!”……
But I did not hesitate to share my opinions.
Hideo
So you behaved confidently. You mean you gained more confidence than before, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
But, if you gain too much confidence, you would be arrogant....
Well.
Could you explain the most enjoyable thing in peer support?
Ken
When I created a video for the school summits, I really enjoyed a lot.
Hideo
You enjoyed creating a video, is that right?
Ken
When I was making……. I took various ideas into the video presentation. How to present our class information. I enjoyed taking action for my class.
Hideo
I see. Many peer supporters mentioned similar comments.
Rather than carrying out the activities and giving presentations, they enjoy making preparations.
Do you know the reason why?
Ken
Well….. …….giving a presentation is ……. Ummmmm….. as you know…..
When we make preparations, we discuss many things with others and we can learn others’ thoughts and views.
Hideo
How many pupils attended the preparation?
Ken
About 4 pupils…. But we had many different ideas and I really enjoyed learning others’ views and thoughts.
Hideo
Ahhhhh. It sounds like you had a satisfying time. The 4 pupils worked for your class mate.
Ahhh.
Well, what things do you not like about peer support?
Ken
As you know… … peer supporters often received advice from teachers when they gave their talks at assemblies. I believe there were fewer opportunities for peer supporters to think about contents of their talks before they gave their talks at the assemblies. Peer supporters need to take the lead to carry out their responsibilities.
Hideo
I see
It sounds difficult for you.
Ken
No, not difficult.
Hideo
Is it difficult for you to do that?
Ken
If I really want to, I can do that.
Hideo
I see.
Do you have any difficulties when you are doing peer support?
Ken
I mentioned that I enjoy making preparations, but if I think too much about the activities, I feel I can’t be bothered to think about it.
Sometimes I give up thinking when I think about difficult issues.
Hideo
I see
Do you have any other difficulties?
For example, when other pupils consulted you, you needed to work very hard… something like that.
Ken
Well, other pupils did not consult me much.
Hideo
Do you have any other?
Ken
……………………
Hideo
You did not have many hardships?
Ken
No, not many.
Hideo
Well, what do you think about difficulties?
Ken
They were tough experiences for me, but when I overcame the difficulties, I had a real sense of achievement.
Hideo
Because of a real sense of achievement, you think difficulties are okay for you, is that right?
Ken
I can carry out our activities with having difficulties, and I would feel joy with that.
But when I have difficulties, I definitely feel more joy after finishing all my responsibilities.
In this sense, it is very important for me to experience the difficulties.
Hideo
The more you have difficulties, the more you feel a real sense of achievement, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Is it possible for you to feel a real sense of achievement without difficulties?
Ken
I do not feel a real sense of achievement if I do not have difficulties.
Hideo
I see
Well, when you face the problems, have you asked your supervisor for help?
Ken
Well………… …… let me think …………..well
When peer supporters discussed some issues, sometime our discussions did not go well. Then teachers gave us advice, then we peer supporters were able to discuss the issues again and shared many opinions.
Hideo
I see
Do you have any other help from teachers?
Ken
Teachers……ummm……
Hideo
Nothing?
Ken
When I was creating a video for the school summits……
Hideo
Is your teacher Mr. Nakamaya?
Ken
Mr. Nakayama.
Hideo
Ahhh….Mr. Nakamaya.
Ken
When I was creating a video, many problems occurred. I asked teacher for help, then I could continue to make the preparations.
Hideo
I see
Do you have any negative views toward the difficulties and problems?
Ken
When I face the difficulties, I know I would feel a real sense of achievement after overcoming the issues. But I still have negative feelings and I may hesitate to tackle the issues.
Hideo
You may feel that way….
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
However, because of a real sense of achievements, I would like to tackle the issues, is that right?
Ken
I know I would feel a real sense of achievements later……… but when I face the issues, I feel the issues are too difficult to cope with….. thus I cannot have time to think about a real sense of achievements. I am apt to think about only the difficulties…
Hideo
I see
Well, what are the most important things when you overcome the difficulties?
Ken
I think willpower is very important.
Hideo
Ohhhh. Willpower.
What do you mean willpower?
Ken
Many times I felt tired and down in the middle of peer support. I need to have a sense of responsibility to finish the things properly. If I have a sense of responsibility to finish the things properly, I am able to take actions again and again. Also I can spend a long time to check and carry out peer support activities. But if ordinary pupils have some problems, only pupils who have willpower would be able to carry on their activities.
Hideo
I see. Willpower is to ability to continuously take actions, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Have you changed your mind after overcoming your difficulties?
Ken
Even though I can’t explain the degree of hardships as large or small, if I went through large hardships, then, the next upcoming small hardships, (like my studies), would not be amounting to much. Even when I am struggling with the small hardships, I try to think like ‘this is nothing’. Sometimes small hardships are still difficult for me, but I am able to make an effort to overcome them.
Hideo
I see.
Do you think your school record has improved after joining the peer support team?
Ken
Well, before exams, sometimes I could not concentrate on my studies. At that time, my school record fell a bit. ….in the end, I made an effort to study hard for 5 hours, and then the time and effort put into working towards them did not betray me. My school records were improved.”
Hideo
Ohhh. That is good.
If your school record fell because of peer support activities, I would not be happy at all.
Ken
I think so.
Hideo
Some time ago, you mentioned involving other pupils into activities……
Do you have any idea how to involve other pupils?
Ken
As you know, it would be good for peer supporters to try to involve our close friends at first. Then, these close friends can try to ask their friends to join the activities. Then gradually our supportive relationships would expand from our close friends.
Hideo
You want to involve your close friends into peer support, is that right?
Ken
Our friends try to ask their friends to join, then their friends try to ask other pupils to join as well. Eventually all pupils would be involved.
Hideo
Ohhh. I see. Is that different from teachers’ encouragements?
Ken
When teachers encourage pupils to join, the pupils feel they are being told in an imperative tone. We pupils feel so.
Hideo
How about if teachers encourage pupils to join in a soft tone?
Ken
Well…..when teachers encourage pupils……
pupils tend not to follow teachers’ orders obediently.
Hideo
I see. Even if teachers suggested good things, pupils tend not to follow teachers’ orders, is that right?
Ken
The pupils often doubt whether teachers tell lies or not.
Hideo
Hahaha. I feel sorry for teachers.
I see. The pupils tend to think so.
I understand how you feel.
So, the best way to involve the pupils is that pupils encourage other pupils to join, is that right?
Ken
When pupils were encouraged to join by their friends, pupils tend to think to join positively. Even if the pupils could not join, they would tend to join easily next time.
Hideo
To be encouraged by friends is a very influential in various ways
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
It seems to connect to the next opportunity, is that right?
Ken
I think so.
Hideo
I seem to understand it. Even pupils who refused friends’ request once, it seems to be very difficult to refuse again next time, is that right?
Ken
I think so.
Hideo
Well, ….I believe some pupils show negative attitudes toward peer support activities, so how do you make contact with them?
Ken
Some pupils who show negative attitude toward peer support activities, are still able to listen to what their friends say. As you know, when I speak to misbehaved pupils, they can listen to what I am saying a bit.
Hideo
I see. Even in a group of misbehaved pupils, some pupils are still able to listen to other pupils talk.
Ken
These pupils who misbehave seem to think of things in a negative way, but they just tend to doubt other pupils’ talks.
Hideo
But, you would like to talk to them, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
These pupils who misbehave may talk to their friends, is that right?
Ken
No. As you know, I do not think misbehaved pupils would encourage other misbehaved pupils. But even if one of the misbehaved pupils joined the activities, other misbehaved pupils may think about the activities. There is also the possibility that they may join.
Hideo
I see. There is also the possibility for misbehaved pupils, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
So there are some possibilities, is that right?
Ken
Yes
Hideo
Because there are some possibilities, that is the reason why peer supporters want to share information with them, is that right?
Ken
No, not right. Peer supporters should not continuously encourage misbehaved pupils.
If they are persistently asked to join, they tend to be irritated by peer supporters.
Therefore, peer supporters need to encourage them lightly, and this would be more effective.
Hideo
When peer supporters encourage misbehaved pupils lightly, but not persistently, this would be more effective, is that right?
Ken
When the pupils who misbehave are encouraged persistently by others, they would be irritated and behave in more rebellious manner.
Hideo
Ohhh. I see. You explained it very well. You would be a psychologist in future.
I understand.
When you feel down because of peer support, how do you cheer yourself up?
Ken
Well….. say…….. I have not been feeling down because of peer support.
Hideo
You are very positive boy.
I understand. You do not feel down. Maybe you seem to eat meals and sleep to be healthy.
Ken
If I am motivated, this means I have energy. When I am motivated, …….. even when I feel a bit tired because of my studies, I can still make efforts to take actions.
Because I have a strong sense of responsibility, even when I feel a bit tired, still I am able to work hard.
Hideo
You study hard as well. As you mentioned, willpower is very important, is that right?
Ken
Yes, willpower is important.
Hideo
I think you have a strong willpower, don’t you.
Ken
Well, thank you very much.
Hideo
Ahahaha
Well, have you had any help from supervisors? If you have, could you tell me an example please?
Ken
Well…. …. sometimes teachers gave me useful advice. As you know, teachers’ views are different from pupils’ views. Thus peer supporters can get different views and ideas from teachers. Teachers’ advice makes us think about how adults see the things in terms of their views.
Hideo
Well, what do you think about peer support activities in your school?
Ken
As I mentioned, we did many things. We had the skiing training camp, and also we peer supporters tried to encourage pupils not to eat sweets in the school. Peer supporters took actions actively……..
Hideo
You can share anything about peer support.
Ken
Currently peer supporters actively have given presentations……..
Hideo
Anything you can share.
Are you satisfied with current peer support?
Ken
I am happy about current peer support activities. But still I want to improve our peer support.
Hideo
So you believe you can improve peer support further
Ken
Well, personally, I am happy about the current peer support.
But other peer supporters maybe want to develop the peer support further.
Hideo
If there are no peer support systems in your school, what do you think about pupils’ school life?
Ken
Our school would become a troubled school. Pupils would misbehave and would not listen in lectures properly. I believe the majority of pupils misbehave and all the classes would have bad situations.
Hideo
Are you sure? How do you know that?
Ken
Well, from the school summits, I saw senior pupils’ presentations. Then I realise that our class mates’ behaviours are comparatively inferior to them. We need to think about how we can improve our behaviours and our school life. This means we can have a sense of crisis about our own school life.
Hideo
Ahhh. I see. You can understand yourself clearly and objectively. Thus, you feel you need to behave properly, is that right?
Ken
You are right.
Hideo
Currently, not only your school, but also other schools cooperate to have school summits, and anti-bullying dramas.
So how do you feel about these activities?
Ken
Pupils can understand the differences between their own school and other schools.
I think rather than peer supporters, someone who needs to improve their behavior should be invited to the school summits. Then, they would understand situations of their own school and their own behaviour.
Hideo
You mean, not only representatives but also misbehaved pupils need to attend the school summits, is that right?
Ken
I believe especially misbehaved pupils need to attend the school summits and see the anti-bullying dramas in order to reflect on their own behaviours.
Hideo
You think it is very effective for misbehaved pupils to improve their behaviour, is that right?
I think the anti-bullying dramas are really great.
I want many pupils to see the dramas and improve their behaviours and school life.
How do you think about it?
Ken
Yes. I think so.
Hideo
Have you seen the dramas?
Ken
Yes, I have seen them.
Hideo
Where have you seen them?
Ken
At the civic hall
Hideo
I believe you had a school summits in there as well, is that right?
Ken
Yes, you are right.
Hideo
Were there many pupils from other schools?
Ken
Representatives of peer supporters from 12 secondary schools gathered in there.
Hideo
So you attended, is that right?
Ken
Yes, because I am a peer supporter, I wanted to see it.
Hideo
That is great.
You could attend it?.
Ken
Yes, but I just attended it and saw the drama.
In that time, I felt like I was a guest to see others’ presentations.
Hideo
Well, even if you are a guest, this means you attended it. Without guests, they cannot play a drama.
Well, do you feel any difference between pupils who actively join the activities and pupils who do not actively join them?
Ken
Ummmmm…. …people often say, “many men, many minds”.
I personally think pupils cannot agree with other’s different ideas because…….
Ummmmm….. sorry, what was the question?
Hideo
Do you feel any difference between pupils who actively join the activities and pupils who do not actively join?
Ken
Some pupils who misbehave do not want to behave as a good boy and a good girl.
Because they have their own reasons……
Hideo
“a good boy and a good girl” means that pupils seriously take actions for the activities, is that right?
Ken
Current secondary school pupils do not want to behave seriously
Hideo
Pupils feel behaving seriously is not cool, is that right?
Ken
Well, misbehaved pupils tend to think well-behaved pupils are teachers’ pets.
There are some misunderstanding. Some pupils want to actively join the activities because they are motivated to contribute to something good.
But some misbehaved pupils do not want to be a teachers’ pet, thus they do not want to join the activities.
Hideo
Well, is that a small misunderstanding?
Ken
Yes, these are small misunderstandings.
Hideo
Rather than misunderstanding, it depends on difference views, is that right?
Ken
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
The matter is a small difference on their views, is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
Well, if you did not become a peer supporter, do you think you would still actively join the activities?
Ken
Well, if I did not become a peer supporter, I believe I would not join the activities at all.
Hideo
Ahahaha. Do you seriously think so?
Ken
Yes, I am sure.
Hideo
Well, this means taking a responsibility as a peer supporter is very important, is that right?
Ken
As you know, peer supporters are representatives of pupils, I think I need to take actions in various ways. In this sense, I think I should actively join the activities.
Hideo
Taking a responsibility is a very important, is that right?
Ken
I think so
Hideo
I understand
Finally, do you have anything to tell me?
Ken
As you know, well…….we had a presentation on leaning. A class of senior pupils’ did a student drama. But teachers told us to make mosaic glass art. We do not understand why we need to make mosaic glass art.
Hideo
What do you mean?
Ken
Well, I felt we were forced by teachers to make mosaic glass art
Hideo
Ohhh. I see
You pupils want teachers to listen to pupils’ opinions, is that right?
Ken
Pupils have various ideas and opinions. It is really depending on each pupil.
So I feel pupils’ ideas and opinions have been ignored.
Hideo
I understand your feelings.
Ken
Thank you.
Hideo
I understand. If pupils agreed to do something, pupils would take the initiative to carry out the things. Do you think so?
Ken
Yes, I think so.
Hideo
Are you sure?
Ken
Yes, I am sure.
Hideo
So if pupils decide to do things by themselves, they would actively take actions.
But if the things to do were already decided by teachers, pupils would reluctantly carry on the things (activities), is that right?
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
What I said is right?
Ken
Yes, you are right?
Hideo
Do you have any other things tell me?
Ken
No, nothing.
But if pupils who misbehave joined the club activities, they may devote all their attention to the club activities. This means they may reduce their fighting, thefts and other misbehaviours if they found something they can devote themselves to.
Hideo
I see. The club activities also play an important role.
If pupils want to improve their skills, they would endure and take actions very much in the club activities.
This means pupils need to have a strong willpower, is that right?
They think the time and effort put into working towards the club activities does not betray them.
Ken
Yes.
Hideo
I understand. Thank you very much
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