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International Noah and Judi Mountain Symposium in Şırnak, Sept. 2013

The German Explorers of Cudi Dağı

114 years of examining the real landing place

Dipl.-Ing. (FH) Timo Roller

MORIJA medien, Wildberg, Germany

Author of the book »Bible Earth«

Author of 

www.cudi.info

www.noahs-berg.de



 and 

www.noah2014.com

Contact: 

timo.roller@morija.de

Figure 1: Looking down from Cudi Dağı (© Hans Thoma)

German explorers have visited the summit of Mount Cudi since 1899. Unique photographs were taken 

and much fascinating information has been assembled. Although I did not visit the site so far myself, I 

was able to explore the summit by using Google Earth images, through which I indeed managed to put 

together many important pieces of the jigsaw puzzle on the possible location of what may actually 

remain of Noah's ark.



Johannes Lepsius

Figure 2: Johannes Lepsius (Lepsius House, Potsdam)

The first photo ever taken on the summit of Mount Cudi stems from 

Johannes Lepsius and dates to the summer of 1899. It is printed in his 

book »Ex Oriente Lux«, in which he reports his »Besteigung des 

Ararat« (»Ascent of Ararat«). He explains: »Not the ›Masis‹ at the 

border of Russia, but the Cudi on the northern edge of Mesopotamia 

is the Ararat of Scripture as (found) in oriental tradition«. [1]

Lepsius was born in Berlin on December 15, 1858, while his father Karl 

Richard Lepsius (1810–1884) is considered to be the founding father 

of German Egyptology, who in turn was a friend of the famous 

naturalist Alexander von Humboldt (1769–1859). Lepsius' mother, 

Elizabeth (1828–1899) was the daughter of the famous composer 

Bernhard Klein (1793–1832) and the great-granddaughter of the writer 

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Friedrich Nicolai (1733–1811). Consequently at Lepsius' home several influential personalities within the 

fields of politics, culture and ecclesiastical life regularly gathered.

Johannes Lepsius himself had studied math and philosophy, while he received a doctorate in Theology in 

1880. While he was an assistant reverend at the German Lutheran state church in Jerusalem he made his 

first trip to the Orient in 1884. Through his work at an orphanage he became closely acquainted with the 

major problems at stake in the region, which were mainly caused by clashes between different cultures 

within the Middle East. He also founded his own relief organization. Lepsius died on February 3, 1926.

Figure 3: First photograph ever taken of »Cudi, the mountain of the ark: place of worship for the muslims« (Johannes Lepsius)

In 1899 Lepsius and his comrades climbed to the top of Cudi starting the ascent at Şırnak. Finally they 

reached the summit and as he comments:

»It was noon when we arrived at the top and rode up the final flat vaulted elevation. Before us we 

found a square structure of hewn, roughly piled stones, one might have considered it to be a 

primitive watch tower. Some remains of vaults could infer that there once might have been a 

monastery here. Currently the open rooms appeared to serve as storage facilities for the pilgrims 

that came for the autumn festival. A crude staircase led to a walled patio, to which a ruined tower 

was attached.

Westward, a second crude construction nodged on to an elongated ridge, of the same nature and 

purpose as the first. [...]

›Over there‹ – he pointed to a circular terrace, perhaps some 30 meters below us, which was shaded 

by a lonely tree – ›he built an altar and sacrificed and prayed there.‹ ›During  Fall, many people get 

together here, many of them coming from afar. Here the Christians are gathering and over there (at 

the other walled space) the Yezidis and the Muslims. There they slaughter eat and sing.‹« [2]

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Concerning the question, where the mountain of Noah's ark is to be located, Lepsius wrote:

»There can be no doubt that the ›Masis‹ –called ›Ararat‹ by the Europeans – on the border of Russia, 

Persia and Turkey cannot be related to the tradition, while all the main features which are 

significant for the biblical history and Babylonian tradition concerning the flood, most clearly fit in 

with the Syrian Arab tradition on Cudi as the veritable ›Ararat‹.« [3]

Gertrude Bell

Figure 4: Gertrude Bell 

The merits of Gertrude Bell regarding the exploration of Cudi Dağı 

can not be fully appreciated, for the British explorer (who has been 

called »the female Lawrence of Arabia« and the »Queen of the 

Desert«) has left the world with the most spectacular images and 

vivid descriptions, which are the most precious to be found on 

Mount Cudi, also still after more than one hundred years when she 

herself was on the summit on May 13 of 1909. But as she was not 

German, I will not comment any further on her work. The most 

important sources to consult are: her book »Amurath to 

Amurath« (1911, repr. 1924) as well as the website 

www.gerty.ncl.ac.uk

Friedrich Bender

Figure 5: Friedrich Bender (© by himself)

The next German explorer happens to  be a 

geologist (he was also very well known: in 1984 

he was awarded the German Federal Cross of 

Merit) and he was the next person, who reached 

the summit of Mount Cudi during Easter of 1954 

(according to some information it was in 1953 – 

but his own records appear to be contradictory 

here). The person in question is Friedrich Bender, 

a professor and president of the Federal Institute 

of Agricultural Research (today known as the 

»Federal Institute for Geosciences and Natural 

Resources«) [4]. In June 2009 I myself had the 

opportunity to meet his widow, Mrs. Sigrid 

Bender, who showed me several personal 

documents and numerous pictures that had 

belonged to her deceased husband.

Friedrich Karl Heinrich Bender was born on 

September 17 of 1924 in Ziegenhain in the 

German State of Hesse. He respectively attended 

elementary and high school in Bad Hersfeld, 

Kleve and Wetzlar. In 1941 he was drafted into 

the Wehrmacht during World War II and was sent 

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to the front-line in Russia. After the war and subsequently to his return to Germany, Bender studied 

geology in Stuttgart and began his professional career in northern Germany in 1951. As this geologist 

states in the preface to his book »Wanderungen« (»Wanderings«), he investigated »in vieler Herren 

Länder« (i. e. »all over the world«) and adds: »I had the rare privilige and the good health to get to know 

virtually every country of the world.« [5]

In the early 1950s, Bender worked as a geologist in Anatolia and had close contact with the locals. It was 

through a discussion with a Hodja – an Islamic scholar – about the Bible and the Quran that Friedrich 

Bender went on his journey to Cudi Dağı. Because they had been discussing the story of Noah the latter 

made a lasting impression on Bender's mind and this gave rise to his plans to make the trip. His wife told 

me: »Fritz was very mixed up after the visit and went introvert«. In an issue of the journal »Kosmos« from 

the year 1956 Friedrich Bender describes how a muslim Hodja (priest) had told him about Mount Cudi 

and writes:

»The remains of the old vessel covered in sand are apparently still up on Mount Cudi today. He (the 

Hodja) himself had been there some twenty years before and had seen the place with his own eyes. 

The place was a sacred place of pilgrimage for all true believers in Kurdistan and northern Arabia. 

He said that no Christian had ever been there before, but he felt that I might be able to find a guide, 

who could accompany me through this rough terrain.« [6]

Figure 6: Bender floated down the river Tigris with a raft made of animal skins (© Friedrich Bender)

On several images Bender has documented his adventurous journey to Mount Cudi. He describes his 

arrival on the summit as follows:

»After a further climb of some ten minutes my guides showed me the place, which they considered 

to be the landing place of Noah's Ark at a height of some 2000 meters above sea level. There was an 

approximately 300 meter long open trough oriented in southern direction towards the plain, 

located immediately below the summit of Cudi Dag. Above the trough I found ruins of a small 

mosque or shelter of thick, roughly hewn boulders. A walled stone with strange, unfamiliar 

characters also struck me.« [7]

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The uniqueness of Bender's expedition was that he has actually excavated there!

»We immediately began to clear away the 1 to 2 meter thick snow blanket in several places on the 

edge of the trough, because I had been told that remains of wood were found in the sand 

underneath the snow. In reality we hit on finely grained calcareous sandstone, which also 

contained grains of quartz. Despite my scepticism, my excitement reached its zenith when after 

one meter we hit on brown sand discolorations, in which we uncovered the remains of totally 

decayed black wood. At first I believed that these were the remains of an old camp fire. But soon I 

discovered that the wood was bonded by asphalt! (I carried some chemicals with me, which usually 

help to extract bitumen, oil and asphalt from rocks). We continued our dig with renewed fervor, but 

below the level of one meter the sand proved to be the frozen. Excavations in the deeper parts of 

the trough were prevented by the snow which rose to several meters. We were granted no more 

success.« [8]

Figure 7:

 

Bender and his guides while digging for pieces of wood (© Friedrich Bender)



The following results of the detailed investigation were also achieved by this geologist:

»After the thorough extraction of the asphalt with the use of tetrachloride, the wood fragments 

were subsequently dated according to the 

14

C-method in Hannover at the Lower Saxony State 



Office for Soil Research, which produced the model age of  6635±280 years before present/BP 

(i.e. before 1950). A second test, which used up the remaining available material, confirmed this 

result. The only possible source of error to be considered  could have been an incompletely 

separated piece of asphalt, whose age certainly amounted to more than 50,000 years. If so, this 

would raise the apparent age by a maximum of some 400 years, but only if the carboniferous 

heterogeneity within the extrinsic portion contained in the cleaned sample still amounted up to 

5%, which may be regarded as unlikely.« [9]

His wife told me of a »four and a half centimeters piece of decayed wood«. Unfortunately, no photo of this 

is available.

As for his explorations on Cudi, Bender concludes: »I personally think that is worthwhile to pursue the 

matter. Again and again one finds a grain of truth shrowded in ancient traditions, and often one has 

started to explore things based on less indicative evidence than what is presented here.« [10]

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He himself indeed pursued the matter further, but without reaching a satisfactory interpretation and 

without getting to the summit again. In 1991 he visited the foot of the Cudi mountains for a last time, but 

the political circumstances and his health did not allow him to climb the mountain again. Bender had 

sought to bring the archaeological finds of Leonard Woolley at  Ur in Lower Mesopotamia in line with the 

Cudi Dağı Ark tradition. Although it is known today that the clay levels which Woolley associated with the 

biblical deluge only represent a small flood on limited scale, Bender wished to find out if the 

Mesopotamian inundation (located by Woolley) could be reconciled with the tradition of the boat that 

would have landed at the findspot, which according to his understanding was located at an altitude of 

some 1700 meters. His basic theory, which he had already published in 1972 was as follows: »The height 

of the findspot at some 750 meters above the gravel terraces in the plain is difficult to explain, if one 

seeks to explain the find as the remains of a shipwreck. Several geological observations, however, do 

suggest that there have been very recent techtonic elevations on the southern edge of Taurus in 

Southeastern Turkey. « [11]

His geological studies at the foot of the Cudi chain in autumn of 1988 showed some discrepancies 

between the geological attribution of the terrace gravel to the Quartery (according to him some 300,000 

to 350,000 years old) and the 

14

C dating which resulted in a date range between 675 and 13,950 years. 



Finally the mystery remained unsolved for Friedrich Bender and in a letter to a friend dated to July 1992, 

he wrote that »the story still excites me even after 40 years«.

Friedrich Bender died on May 27, 2008 and was buried in the cemetery of Spangenberg.

The Hans Thoma team

Figure 8: Hans Thoma, Otmar Reiter and Christoph Thoma (© Timo Roller)

»We struggled ourselves 

forward on the winding 

pilgrimage path up to the 

summit of Cudi Da(gh) in the 

scorching heat of the afternoon 

hours. It is us, five climbers from 

Bavaria, a bearded guide with 

two mules, an Islamic mullah 

with guiding skills and a ten 

year old interpreter called ›Kiek 

mal‹, who has been to school in 

Berlin for two years and who 

starts every sentence with this 

standard phrase. In addition 

two soldiers accompanied 

us.« [12]

This is a report of Christoph 

Thoma, who attended the 

summit of Cudi together with 

his dad and other companions 

back in 1983. Even though the ultimate goal of these ambitious climbers was to head for the 5000 meter 

high Mount Ararat, the trip to Mount Cudi appears to have left a strong impression on the group. 

Christoph Thoma writes:

»All of a sudden the light goes out, just at the moment when we finally reach the putative anchor 

site of the ark. Our Hodja is praying. The six of us share two cans of beer. Iron reserve of the 

backpack. We unroll our sleeping bags on the muddy floors of the leaf huts which stood next to 

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two stone houses. Our priest calles one of the buildings a ›church‹, the other one a ›mosque‹. 

Believers of different religions come here for pilgrimage. [...]

Agonizing thirst wakes us early. [...] We view Noah's first housing and numerous cisterns which date 

back to the archaic past. But in summer these are all empty. A stone igloo by the way side 

fascinates us: on the inside of the semi-circular kraal dozens of delightful small prams made of 

brightly colored rags and woolen threads are dangling. The Hodja explains: ›They were brought by 

women who can't have children. For from this spot spread life throughout the world.‹« [13]

Figure 9: Small prams in the ruins on top of Mount Cudi (© Hans Thoma)

Hans Thoma told in his 1991 book »Türkei – Trekking unterm Halbmond« (»Turkey – trekking underneath 

the crescent«):

»The little exciting and especially for alpine proportions tiny challenge of Mount Cudi is soaked 

with mythology like a sponge. Near the landing place are simple structures made of quarried 

boulders like booths with roofs made of brushwood and dried leaves. They are given names such as 

"Noah's house" and "Noah's shrine". The unsuspecting unbelievers are awaited by heartwarming 

devotional places on the Cudi plateau. Walls have been erected in the midst of a treeless field. They 

resemble primitive altars, barely chest high, semicircular in form. The inside of the walls are hung 

with doll-like small replicas of cradles. Colorful scraps of clothing, floral, polka dots, red, white, blue 

with yellow, like tiny hammocks affectionately suspended by woolen threads and attached to dry 

twigs and plant stalks, which are caught in the rubble. Devout and hoping proffered votive 

offerings deposited by women who implore the blessing of children in this place, which brought 

new life to the earth after the flood.« [14]

The members of the Thoma crew climbed the mountain with armed escorts and under adverse 

conditions: the water supplies were running out because of a miscalculation of the guides. Probably heat 

and thirst prevented more detailed investigation of the terrain on the mountain top. Nevertheless, the 

view from Cudi and the ruins have been captured quite impressively on high quality photographs.

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Figure 10: Sunrise at the landing place of the ark 

(© Hans Thoma)

During my research I travelled to 

Landshut in September 2009. I met 

the then 84-year-old Hans Thoma, his 

son Christopher and his companion 

Otmar Reiter. They showed me two 

small pieces of rock from Mount Cudi, 

kept by Hans Thoma in an old film 

box. I was able to take pictures of them in detail – and even examine them later with the help of 

geologists and archaeologists. But at first glance they seemed fairly unspectacular and probably they are 

just charred pieces of limestone.

Figure 11: Remains of the ark? (© Timo Roller) 

Unfortunately, the location of the discovery site can not be clearly 

proven. Christoph Thoma writes:

»As a farewell the Hodja gave us a few chunks of hazelnut-

sized, crumbly, blackish substance. He related that he had 

dug them out of the ground of the landing site. None of us 

had watched him do this. But – and this is a curious fact – 

also the people here at the village of Besiri wear such 

clumps as amulets around their necks. The Hodja declared 

unequivocally: these are remnants of Noah's ark.

Are these truly our final relics? Hans immediately 

remembered an article he had read back in 1972. There he found the enigmatic sentences: remains 

of wood from a pilgrim's place on mount Cudi, found in 1953 by Dr. Friedrich Bender and dated 

with the help of 

14

C. After the removal of bitumen bonding an age of 6500 years had been 



established for the wood. ›And exactly at that time‹ so argued Otmar ›significant parts of 

Mesopotamia had perportedly been flooded.‹

So have we really found remains of Noah's Ark, or more properly said have received them as a gift 

from our Hodja? ›Let's go with Goethe,‹ says Andy, 'he advised the people to worship the 

inscrutable.‹ ›And Peter fell into the car seat saying: ›The rest of it is just faith, isn't it?‹« [15]

»We are proud of this gift. The Lower Saxony State Office for Soil Research [Friedrich Bender himself did 

the examination] investigated our relics by the 

14

C method. Result: 19,850 years old humus 



substance.« [16]

Another great merit of the Thoma crew are the imprints of some bas-reliefs which they have made with 

silicone. These millennia-old monuments are severely threatened by decay, but fortunately the 

inscriptions were already translated 100 years ago. 

I am glad to have a real Sennacherib relief up in my office, it is an 

almost unique piece of ancient art.

Figure 12: A copy of the Sennacherib bas-relief found at Mount Cudi (© Timo Roller)

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My own research

In 2007 I published my first book »Bible Earth«. It leads you to many important Holy Places with the 

famous application of Google Earth. Later I found newly uploaded high-resolution satellite images of 

Cudi Dağı with Google Earth and connected them geographically with pictures and descriptions of 

different sources. I published an article about my exploration on my website, and so Bill Crouse contacted 

me. His earlier work had helped me a lot in my research and since that first contact we use to share our 

results on the subject. My German base has been a great help because of the important explorers whom I 

introduced to you who mainly published in German.

I was able to collect the first photograph of the summit and the most important geological 

documentation, which had been collected by German explorers and which may now serve as a basis for 

further - international - research. By comparing many photos with the satellite images of Google Earth, I 

was able to locate the exact peak of the mountain range and identify the remains of the ruins. I am 

convinced that some structures are still awaiting discovery and that an archaeological expedition could 

prove to be very rewarding.

I don't think one is able to find an intact ark trapped in the ice of a glacier like explorers hope to find on 

Mount Ararat. They are searching at the wrong place but also on Cudi only very little remains will have 

been preserved to the present day. There is no glacier to preserve it, while the ark must have been 

destroyed through erosion and catastrophes that occured during the many millenia of its history and 

surely  many pieces of the wood must have been removed by generations of pilgrims.

The researchers who only focus on Mount Ararat expect to find the ark trapped in glacial ice. But as it 

seems, they are looking in the wrong place. As there is no glacial ice on Cudi very little must be left of the 

Ark itself - if anything at all. But it may be possible to uncover the foundations and other remains of 

structures built during the changing architectural history on the summit of which we only still see small 

ruins today. The monastery burnt back in the 8th century or the fortress which was conquered by 

Sennacherib evidently some 1500 years earlier, could be promising targets for archaeological 

excavations. And in the case that researchers will find some rotten remains of a wooden structure, this 

could perhaps bring to light a plausible explanation: Could the sinking waters of the deluge in the days of 

Noah have allowed the huge ship to settle gently on top of this mountain which the muslims know as Al 

Cudi and which also Christians should finally realize is indeed one of the »mountains of Ararat« as 

described in the Bible?

The following tables and the enclosed pictures show an overview of my geographical research with 

Google Earth and many of the other sources. I hope these results will serve as a basis for further research 

with me as a further German explorer – embedded into an international working group finding out more 

and more about the true landing place of Noah's ark.



Identifying the exact summit with Google Earth

Because the summit of Mount Cudi is a plateau rather than a peak it was not clear were the exact 

»landing place« was at the start of my research. Therefore I had to find some striking landmarks on the 

photographs available and compare them with the images of Google Earth. As you can see on the 

following pictures I found some of such and succeeded in identifying the place visited by Lepsius, Bell, 

Bender and the Thoma team and so I was able to determine the coordinates of the place where the ark 

had probably stranded.

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Figure 13: Landmarks on the Bell panorama photograph as compared with Google Earth

ID

Description



Distance to Summit

Position


Coordinates (E/N)

Above Sea Level

L1

Mountain near Aydin



44 km

14°


42.6200, 37.7500

2825 m


L2

0,8 km


16°

42.4982, 37.3732

1864 m

L3

1,25 km



40°

42.5039, 37.3745

1821 m

L4

Mountain near Senoba/



Uludere

30 km


54°

42.7700, 37.5200

2679 m

L5

3,9 km



59°

42.5333, 37.3838

1735 m

L6

3,7 km



80°

42.5358, 37.3717

1861 m

L7

»Ice Tongue« on Bell photo



1,6 km

88°


42.5133, 37.3666

1897 m


L8

»Gabriel's Gate«

0,85 km

116°


42.5035, 37.3629

1844 m


L9

Derebasi summit

0,9 km

256°


42.4854, 37.3642

1886 m


L10

Derebasi valley

2,0 km

242°


42.4757, 37.3579

1396 m


L11

Derebasi slope

2,75 km

218°


42.4759, 37.3468

1132 m


L12

0,22 km


225°

42.4937, 37.3648

1947 m

L13


7,6 km

191°


42.4786, 37.2995

703 m


L14

9,2 km


196°

42.4672, 37.2877

681 m

L15


Hill near Silopi

11 km


185°

42.4834, 37.2688

678 m

L16


Southern mountain chain near 

Dayrabun (Iraq)

31 km

184°


42.4713, 37.0913

1040 m


Table 1: Landmarks around Cudi summit

Figure 14: Landmarks on Bell's photos compared to HPG image found in the internet in 2008

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Figure 15: Landmarks L1 to L8 shown on Bell panorama picture

Figure 16: Cudi mountain chain as seen from Silopi

Figure 17: Looking down from the summit towards Silopi

Figure 18: Remarkable rock formation near the »landing place« identified on a photo found in »panoramio.com«

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Points of interest on the summit of Cudi Dağı

I was able to identify some of the ruins that are shown on the photos of the Cudi explorers in Google 

Earth. In addition, there are several places visible on the satellite images of Google Earth which may to be 

identify with remains of the sacred buildings that once have been there and were destroyed or decayed a 

long time ago. I  have drawn them into the screenshot here.

Figure 19: The points of interesting on the top of Mount Cudi

ID

Description



Coordinates (E/N)

Above Sea Level

Remarks

C1

Main building (»Sefina«)



42.495493, 37.366209

1999 m


C2

Cistern


42.494299, 37.366241

1991 m


C3

Small igloo-shaped building 

(now destroyed)

42.496880, 37.367847

1980 m

Position uncertain



C4

Eastern corner of the suspected 

monastery wall

42.497862, 37.365324

1954 m

C5

Southwestern Corner of the 



suspected church

42.493101, 37.365157

1965 m

C6

Possible place where Bender 



found remains of decayed wood

42.496222, 37.365053

1968 m

Table 2: Points of interest with there exact location



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Figure 20: Photographs of the places on the top of Mount Cudi as shown on images found in the internet. As you can see, the igloo-

shaped ruin »C3« has been destroyed within approximately the last five years.



The Surroundings of Cudi Dağı

The towns of Şırnak, Cizre and Silopi surrounds the Cudi massif in three direction: North, west and south. 

Immediately at the foot of the mountains, there are some small abandoned villages which are listed in 

the next tables. They are known under different names and are mentioned partly in the records of the 

explorers. The map notes the locations of the listed places.

ID

Name



Alternate Names

Direction 

to Summit

Coordinates 

(E/N)

Above 


Sea 

Level


Remarks

V1

Sirnak



N

42.45, 37.52

1350 m

Capital of Şırnak Province and 



venue of the Noah Symposium.

V2

Cizre



W

42.18, 37.33

380 m

Noah's tomb is worshipped 



here.

V3

Silopi



S

42.47, 37.25

500 m

V4

Kemerli



N

42.49, 37.41

1150 m

V5

Anilmis



Gündükremo, Zemo

N

42.51, 37.40



1200 m

V6

Boyunyaka



Ipsindarük

N

42.50, 37.40



1250 m

V7

Görümlü



SE

42.57, 37.34

900 m

V8

Koyunören



Besiri

SE

42.54, 37.34



950 m

The inhabitants own wooden 

remains according to C. Thoma.

V9

Derebasi/



Giricülyan, Kericulya

SW

42.46, 37.35



1000 m

According the Bender, the 

summit lies 3000 m to the 

northeast from here.

V10

Kösreli


Hassana

SW

42.42, 37.34



850 m

Gertrude Bell had her camp 

here.

V11


Hebler

Hisar


W

42.36, 37.37

620 m

V12


Sah

Caglayan


W

42.33, 37.38

560 m

Table 3: Towns and villages arround Cudi Dağı.



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Figure 21: A map of the surroundings of Mount Cudi 

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Acknowledgements

I would like to thank Dr. Sigrid Bender, Hans Thoma and Otmar Reiter for providing me their extensive 

evidence and sharing their knowledge about Mount Cudi with me. I also appreciate their permission to 

publish their unique photographs and Friedrich Bender's text.

In addition, a thank you to Dr. Peter van der Veen, whose indication was the starting point of my 

research about Mount Cudi and who supported me to translate this paper. Finally, I want to express my 

appreciation to Bill Crouse: His research is invaluable and I am blessed to cooperate with him since 

2008. I have learned a lot!



Notes

[1] 


Lepsius 1903, p 101

[2] 


Lepsius 1903, p 109–110

[3] 


Lepsius 1903, p 111

[4] 


http://www.bgr.bund.de/DE/50JahreBGR/DE/Praesidenten/praesidenten_inhalt.html

[5] 


Bender 1996, p 7

[6] 


Bender 1956, p 152

[7] 


Bender 1956, p 154

[8] 


Bender 1956, p 154–155

[9] 


Umschau 72 (1972), issue 1, see appendix below

[10] 


Bender, 1956, p 155

[11] 


Umschau 72 (1972), issue 1, see appendix below

[12] 


C. Thoma, 1990, S. 168–169

[13] 


C. Thoma, 1990, S. 170, 172

[14] 


H. Thoma, 1991, S. 130–131

[15] 


C. Thoma, 1990, S. 175

[16] 


C. Thoma, 1984

Bibliography

Johannes Lepsius: »Ex Oriente Lux – Jahrbuch der deutschen Orient-Mission«, Berlin 1903 

Getrude Bell: »Amurath to Amurath« (1911, repr. 1924) 

Gertrude Bell Archive, http://www.gerty.ncl.ac.uk

Friedrich Bender: »Wanderungen«, Köln, Verlag Sven von Loga, 1996

Friedrich Bender: »Kosmos«, Franckh'sche Verlagshandlung, Stuttgart, Heft 4/1956

Christoph Thoma: »Gute Tage unter dem Halbmond: Durch die Türkei bis zum Bibel-Berg Ararat«, 

2. Auflage, München, Frederking u. Thaler, 1990

Christoph Thoma: Aufstieg zum Ankerplatz der Arche, Die Zeit, 6. April 1984, Nr. 15

http://www.zeit.de/1984/15/aufstieg-zum-ankerplatz-der-arche

Hans Thoma: Türkei: Trekking unterm Halbmond, Verlag J. Berg, München 1991

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Appendix

Wooden remains from the »Landing spot of Noah's Ark«, aged about 6500 years

by Prof. Dr. Friedrich Bender, President of the Institute for Geosciences and Natural Resources in Germany from 1975 to 1985

Extended unpublished version, translated by F. Bender (German version published in the magazine »Umschau 72 (1972), Issue 1, 

pages 20–21)

14C-dating done by State Geological Survey of Lower Saxony, Hannover

Wooden remains from Cudidag, a mountain range on the Northern edge of Mesopotamia, have been 

dated by the 14C-method; they are approximately 6500 years old, hence pre-Sumarian. According to 

archaeological findings, southern parts of Mesopotamia were flooded at that time. On account of 

compelling geological and geomorphological reasons the flood possibly can have reached this area but 

never the 300 km to the north situated Mount Ararat in the high alpine region where, according to 

biblical tradition, Noah's Ark should have landed. The place of discovery of the wooden remains is in the 

area which, in the Gilgamesh-Epos an in the Koran, is defined as »the landing place of a ship«. The altitude 

level of the discovery spot at 750 m above the terraced of the Tigris alluvial gravels plain is hardly 

explainable if the findings are to be recognized as remains of the ship. Some observations, however, point 

to very recent, structural uplifts in the area of the southern Taurus edge in south-east Turkey.

Whilst according to the Gilgamesh-Epos the »landing spot of the ship« and consequently the northern 

end of the flooding of Mesopotamia is to be sought between the Tigris and the Great Zab rivers (at Mount 

Nisir), the Old Testament (Genesis 8,4) relocates this place to »the Mount Ararat«. In the Koran (XI. Sure 44) 

the mountain Cudi (Cudidag, Al-Judi) is described as the landing spot of Noah's Ark. The Cudidag is a part 

of the southern most Taurus mountain range in east Turkey between the Tigris and the Great Zab rivers 

and, therefore, coincides with the area mentioned in the Gilgamesh.

For geological and geomorphological reasons the northern borderline of a traceable pre-Sumarian 

flooding of Mesopotamia is naturally more likely to be found at the first mountain ranges which tower 

over the plain in the north than at Mount Ararat (5165 m) at a distance of 300 km farther to the north.

During spring time 1953 [1954?] I was able to climb the Cudidag in East Turkey and salvaged wooden 

remains with traces of asphalt. This undertaking was based mainly on news from Kurdish Muslims, 

according to which the Cudidag was reputed to be a place of pilgrimage where digging was done for 

»wooden pieces of Noah's Ark« which where considered to be of great value as relics. The attendant 

circumstances during the climb prevented detailed geological research. The Cudidag is a south vergent 

anticline (geological saddle with a steep south flank) consisting of Jura and Cretaceous limestone with a 

WNW-ESE running axis. The mountain ridge comes up to approximately 1800 m above sea level. The 

precipitous south flank is accompanied by to parallel running main fold zones amongst which very 

disturbed middle Eocene limestome is observed. South of this lies Neogene (Late Tertiary), presumably 

Pliocene river sediments cover wide areas. Terraced river gravels and terraced talus fans at the foot of the 

mountain range overlie the late Tertiary rocks. They overlie the Neogene sequences with a steep, angular 

disconformity. The old (high) terraces are tectonially uplifted as well. It is possible to differentiate 

between at least three terrace levels (five at the Tigris river) with dip from the edge of the mountain range 

(about 1000 m above sea level) towards the south (to about 500 m). Their ages in detail are unknown. 

West of the town of Cizre, similar terrace gravels are intercalated by Quaternary basalt layers. The 

discovery spot of the examined wooden remains lays in a basin on the upper south slope of the Cudidag, 

about 3000 m north-east of the Kurdish village Kericulya, approximately 1700 m (elevation not certain) 

above sea level and, therefore, approximately 750 m above the highest terrace. The flat basin open to the 

south is surrounded by extensive limestone and dolomitic of the »Cudi Group«. 

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On 6th of April 1953 [more likely 19th April 1954!] most of the basin was snow-covered. Underneath was 

a not loamy fine sandy sediment which at depth of 0.80 to 1.0 m was coloured dark brown and blackish 

and contained pea-sized, brittle decayed wooden remains. Most of these wooden pieces were cemented 

by an asphalt or tar-like substance. More intense digging and closer  investigation was not allowed by the 

Kurdish guides who honoured the discovery spot as a specially sacredly relic.

After thorough dissolution of the asphalt with tetrachloride, the wooden fragments were dated 

according to the 14C-method, and the model age of  6635±280 years (before 1950) established. The 

second test, when all available  material was used up, confirmed this result. As an only possible source of 

error, a contamination with incompletely separated asphalt, which age certainly was higher than 50,000 

years, could be considered. Then the apparent age increase could be maximal 400 years if the 

carboniferous heterogeneity was even 5% in the cleaned sample, which can be regarded as unlikely.

Should the examined wood have been transported by the flood of Mesopotamia to the present point of 

discovery, the altitude of 750 m above the highest terraces would be hard to explain. Some observations 

might allow the conclusion that a very recent geological upwards movements in the area of the Taurus 

edge occured: The Neogene sequences are uplifted to a nearly vertical position in approaching the 

mountain range, Quaternary terraces where included in the continuing uplift movements. In the 

epeirogenetic rise (uplift of an extensive region) younger sediments where also included, as for example 

in the foreland of the Cudidag where Pleistocene sediments under more recent alluvial deposits appear 

to a considerable ascent of the Taurus in this area are also to be taken from the observations by Bobek 

who states values for lift since the older Pliocene in the Bitlis Cay area up to 1500 metres. Recent 

geological ascent could have taken place at the main fault zones of the southern edge of the Cudidag.

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