Cornwall policy consultation database sex establishment policy – 28 July to 20 October 2010



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Mr H – Liskeard (31)

07 Oct 2010

With reference to the consultation concerning this policy I wish to comment as a resident in the County.  I live in Liskeard but visit the city frequently.

 

I have been appalled to learn that there is a proposal to open a sex shop in Truro in a street near the main shopping centre, though I understand there are residential establishments in the same street.



 

I  have seen the document produced by the licensing services group.

 

I understand that the proposal has not been adequately aired in the vicinity of the proposed establishment. (With ref to p11, item 7.7)



 

In a public event at which representations were made the representative of the applicants was allowed to speak for 55 minutes, whereas those who were objecting were only allowed about five minutes in total.  Is this true democracy in action ?

 

The authority for the City, Truro City Council, objects, I understand unanimously, and their policy about the number of sex establishments in an area that they think suitable is nil. 



 

The area, as far as I can see includes private residences which presumably include children.  I would take it that a sex shop in this particular place would be too available for children to encounter.

 

I understand that the applicants have threatened a judicial review.  Councillors should have enough confidence in their agreed policy to ignore any such threat in the future.  If there is some loophole in the legislation which could allow a judicial review, the Council must make representation to Govenment about this.



Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions - in relation to previous application already determined.

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Ms M (47)

14 Oct 2010

A DEFINITE NO !!!!!!!!!!    I hate to see what my hometown has become.  I am planning a trip home after many years abroad,  and quite honestly  I AM DREADING IT !!!!!!! 

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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YES

Mr H-H – Newquay (48)

14 Oct 2010

I live and work in Newquay and am aware that there are currently key issues being discussed to decide the future of lap dance in the town.  I am 31, male and work in the night time ecconomy although not actually in the lap dance area.  I am a night club promoter in fact working in a competing venue. 

I feel that the town is gentley enhanced by the the possibility of 'strip clubs' so long as they are well run and well presented. I hope that this can be considered when approaching the subject.


Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions. General statement of support of Sex Establishments

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Prof. A - Newquay

(49)


14 Oct 2010

I am writing to support the presence of these types of establishments in Newquay.
I have lived in Newquay for 13 years and in all this time the town has catered for stag & hen groups and large numbers of young people under 45 throughout the year. The then Lap Dancing Clubs that opened in Newquay were within the area of night clubs, pubs & discos and complimented the "West End" feel of the area with bright lights, music wafting out of the clubs and Doormen on duty. There was nothing sleazy, offensive or inappropriate on display outside these venues.
I am a single parent to a teenage boy & although I am over 50 I still enjoy going out with my girlfriends to the clubs. At no time have we ever had trouble with the men who are going in or out of the Lap Dancing Clubs. Of course we have had light banter with men in the area, but it is only of the drunken chat-up or lads about town type that you would get in any club or disco anywhere in the country. Neither myself nor my girlfriends have come across sexually aroused, predatory or menacing males as suggested by many of those opposed to these types of clubs.
As a very large number of the visitors to Newquay throughout the year are those who come specifically for the night life, I would say that this type of establishment has a valid place as part of the entertainment on offer. After all the clientele go into a club out of choice and I am sure that no one is under any illusion as to what type of entertainment is on offer in a Lap Dancing or Sexual Encounter Establishment. However, I do not believe that any of these visitors come to Newquay solely to go to one of these places & it is more that they happen to go because they find it is there when they get here. By this I mean that Newquay is not awash with dirty old men & the sexually depraved because we have lap dancing venues here.
You can never please all the people, all the time. I'm a born & bred Londoner, so maybe I am more open-minded & tolerant, but it seems to me that Newquay is a town of 2 sides. On one are the business owners, accommodation suppliers (of which I used to be one, with 6 self-contained holiday flatlets), the entertainment suppliers, the retail outlet owners and the caterers. On the other side are residents of a certain age who have mistaken Newquay for Bournemouth.
This type of establishment is in keeping with the vibrant night life scene that the commercial side of Newquay promotes. Women are no more or less at risk whether there is an establishment of this type or not. The majority of clubs and entertainment establishments are within a relatively short distance. All these places have SIA badged Security who are all in contact with each other via short wave radios. It would be detrimental to the town's image for the cap to be set at zero.

Not a comment in relation to the policy or conditions. General statement of support of Sex Establishments

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Mr F (64)

15 Oct 2010

In response to the message posted on Facebook, I have no issue with lap dancing clubs, so long as their outside image is not garish and in your face, like Divas in Newquay. Halos has a far more subtle classy feel to it's

Not a comment in relation to the policy or conditions. General statement of support of Sex Establishments

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Mr S – Newquay (69)

16 Oct 2010

I have been asked to inform you of my views about Sexual Encounter Establishments in the town Center of Newquay. I have lived in the town for over a decade and in my opinion the lapdancing clubs are some of the safest places to be on a Friday or Saturday night. I haven't been in them many times since they are not cheap but the times I have I have felt relaxed and not pressured and I feel they are a benefit to the town center, compared to all the bars and clubs which seek to get their customers as drunk as possible before releasing them onto the streets they are responisble places. I feel that banning them would be a kneejerk reaction by overly prudish people and would push sexually frustrated men back onto the streets where they might harrass female visitors to the town or get into fights with other sexually frustrated young men. If you really wanted to clean up the town center you would do better making cheap alcohol less readily available.
Thank you for your time,

Not a comment in relation to the policy or conditions. General statement of support of Sex Establishments

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Mr R (76)

17 Oct 2010

please get rid of these dam clubs its not good to bring kids up in

Not a comment in relation to the policy or conditions. General statement.

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BS – unknown (outside of Cornwall) (81)

18 Oct 2010

I am planning to visit Cornwall (probably Penzance) again next year as I want to visit the Minack theater and revisit the beautiful countryside. I found out via a friend of mine that you are considering a "nil cap" on sex Establishments.
 
I want to let you know that as a former and future visitor that I fully support a "nil cap" on sex establishments. I think there is no palce for them anywhere and would very much welcome it if destinations are kept free from them. I think sex establishments create no go zones for women and families and as a man I must admit that they make me feel very uncomfortable as well. I think they encourage the objectification of women and aid the exploitation of vulnerable women.
 
I hope you decide to push through the "nil cap" and would appreciate it if you would keep me up to date with the process.

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.


No specific localities have been requested.

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Ms W (82)

18 Oct 2010

I am writing to voice my objection to any opening or renewal of licences of lap dancing clubs in Newquay.
I am not a resident of Newquay but holiday there twice a year, and if lap dancing clubs are going to be part of the town I shall no longer holiday there. My reasons for this are varied, one being as a Psychotherapist who has worked with women involved in prostitution and lap dancing I am first handedly aware of the treatment women working in these clubs experience.Many spoke of being pressurised into performing "extras", were groped, fondled and assaulted, no boundaries of distance were upheld, all reported verbal abuse, unwanted touching and having been spat at.All of which breech health and safety of workers and something that should not be supported.
In my opinion this is not an average place of work, the women having to pay to perform, being seen as commodities and easy access. I no not want be in an environment where this is encouraged. As we know from research attacks on women are far higher in areas that sell women as commodities.
On a personal level I experienced such an attack outside a lap dancing club, various men, drunk, highly aroused begin to circle my friend and I shouting dance bitches dance, then groped my breasts and buttocks. I do not want other women or possibly children to experience such an attack. As Newquay is in my opinion such a great place with so much to offer tourist why would you destroy it but putting visitors and residence at risk?

please do not betray women and Newquay by having sexist out of date venues.


Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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Ms H – West Yorkshire (83)

18 Oct 2010

Although I am not a resident of Cornwall, it is somewhere I have visited regularly since a child and have some wonderful memories of the fantastic countryside and wonderfully warm welcome from the locals.
We've visited Newquay as a family many times over the past 10 years and until recently have always enjoyed the vibrancy of the town and the fantastic beaches. However, I have been appalled by the increasing number of establishments offering lap dancing and cheap drink to marauding packs of youths (both male and female) who seem hell bent on having a good time at the expense of every other persons enjoyment and are often quite aggressive due to the level of alcohol consumed.
We visited this July and although visiting mid week purposely to avoid the weekend 'crush'; the residential streets around Trebarwith Crescent were still full of drunken youths out for a good time. We ventured one night into the town for a meal and were constantly having to negotiate the pavements full of drunken youths (many who appeared clearly underage) who had no consideration for the fact that I have a small child in a pram. In fact many of the youths continued to consume alcohol (in pint glasses!) whilst walking along the streets which I'm sure contravenes any 'zero tolerance' stance.
What surprised me most was the fact that the locations of these sex trade premises seemed to sit side by side or even within more conservative establishments such as hotels - I for one would certainly not be staying in any hotel near to one of these establishments!
What is happening to Newquay? And I don't understand why the authorities seem hell bent on driving away decent families in preference for a younger client and destroying what should be the jewel in the Cornish crown.
I would like my young family to experience the best of Cornwall but I'm sure I am not alone in feeling that is a safe environment and unfortunately will think twice before returning.

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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Mrs P – Oldham (87)

19 Oct 2010

I have been a regular visitor to Newquay over the last twenty years and come down to stay with my daughter,son-in-law and two grandchildren at least three times a year. I love Newquay and have watched it grow over the years but am now forced to watch the town deteriorate.
In August this year I was returning from a very pleasant evening at Lusty Glaze with my ten year old grandson, who I bring down with me every summer. It was quite late as we had walked slowly along the cliff top, enjoying the beautiful scenery and the balmy summer evening. When we reached the town centre we were dismayed to be confronted by a group of approximately 12 to 15 men outside Halos nightclub on Bank Street. They were shouting, chanting and swearing loudly. My grandson was panic stricken, crying and tried his best to hide behind me. All we could do was turn around and walk back quickly to Berry Road then up to and along Mount Wise. There were other families walking through the town, some pushing prams, but I didn't feel at all safe even though the men didn't approach us. My grandson was still crying when we finally reached my daughter's house. He has decided he doesn't want to go out in Newquay at night any more.
My grandchildren, aged eleven and seven, who live in Newquay have to walk through the town to get to school every morning. They are confronted daily by the remnants of the previous nights excesses. They too are afraid of going through the town at night with their parents. What are we teaching our children?
I have followed the zero tolerance campaign closely and wish to put my views forward. I honestly can't understand why Newquay needs lapdancing clubs at all. To site them in such inappropriate locations is nothing short of disgusting. It seems that formerly, a handful of greedy, self serving club owners were allowed to ride roughshod over the wishes of the majority with impunity. I am hoping now that this will change for good. 

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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Mr P – Newquay (93)

19 Oct 2010

I am opposed to permission for sexual encounter establishments for the following reasons;
they create a tawdry and “anything goes” image of the Town, which will inevitably attract the sort of clientele that likes to drink and indulge in the anti-social behaviour for which Newquay has been exposed

in the national press recently. Conversely, families, who form the basis for the tourist needs of the Town, are discouraged from visiting.


I have spoken to many people around Cornwall who, in former times, would have visited the Town. They are now discouraged by the drunkeness and lewd behaviour they have experienced recently and, now say they will not visit again.
Families with young children do not wish to see groups of young men drinking, shouting and swearing as they make their way to an establishment where nudity and other sexual encounters are performed,

this is making the Town centre a virtual “no go area” for many locals

and visitors alike.
I am sure that the owners of these establishments will say that this is a free country and people should be able to enjoy their holiday time as they see fit, but does that freedom also extend to me, not to have my

town dragged into the depths of depravity, with the drunkeness and anti-social behaviour these establishments encourage?


Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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Anonymous (105)

19 Oct 2010

Get rid of them all!

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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Ms M (111)

20 Oct 2010

I am writing to you with regard to the applications for lap dancing licences in central Newquay.

 

As a trader in the town for many years I can remember the "good old days" when Newquay was a buoyant town full of families enjoying their summer holidays, but gone are those days and we are left with a town full of drunks and hooligans ruining not only the town but it's good name.



 

Families no longer wish to visit the resort as they do not want to encounter the type of people we are attracting when they stroll through the streets after their evening meals with their children at their side.  The sight of semi naked men on a stag party, or university students celebrating their end of term and off their heads on booze and drugs is not pleasant for anyone to see.

 

The provision of bars such as lap dancing only further encourages the type of people we do not want to attract.  They come to the town get drunk, revel throughout the night and spend all day in bed recovering.  No wonder so many local shops are having to close because of lack of trade.  I see only today that Stokes, the local fruit and veg shop, has closed and gone into liquidation.



 

Until the Council and other local authorities start to take responsibility for what they have allowed to happen in Newquay, the town will just continue in it's demise.

 

We want and need to be a family resort for local retailers, hoteliers etc. to survive.  If the town became buoyant with families once again we would all benefit, including the bar/club owners, they would just have a different more amenable clientele.



 

On a more considered note, as a local church child safeguarding officer I think we have a moral duty to our local children to stop the spread of such licensing.  It is degrading to women and not an image we wish to portray to our young people.  I am sure there would be a public outcry if we were parading men with no clothes on, so why is it seemingly acceptable to do it to women?

 

I would appreciate it if you would keep me informed of the outcome of this matter.



 

Thank you,


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Ms S (117)

21 Oct 2010

I have just heard about this consultation, and wanted to take the opportunity to tell you how deeply offensive I consider these establishments to be. They are frequented by groups of men, who are usually intoxicated. They attend these premises in order to purchase sexual arousal. They are encouraged to view the women who work there as beings whose sexuality can be bought. If you believe that  those men are not allowed to orgasm on the premises,   then it must be obvious that they are eventually released onto the city streets in an intoxicated, sexually aroused state. How can that be anything other than dangerous for the women and girls who share those streets? I have personally been the subject of offensive sexual banter in the vicinity of lap dancing clubs. It is offensive and menacing. I have not reported these incidents to the police, because I am pretty sure it wouldn’t make a difference. You now have the opportunity to do something about it though, and I hope that you will. Why allow areas of Newquay to become no go area’s for women? Why expose children to the notion that Councils consider it alright for women’s’ bodies to be traded as commodities?

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions

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Cornwall Councillor - Newquay Central Ward

(120)


20 Oct 2010

Please convey my concerns regarding the licensing of sexual encounter establishments in the Newquay Central area to the review panel.
I am aware of concerns raised by headteachers from all three levels of education in our town and would agree totally with their worries that such establishments do nothing to enhance the great family resort which Newquay once was and we are all working so hard to create again.
We have outstanding schools in our town which develop in our children, high standards of moral, ethical, social and cultural awareness. This fine work is only undermined by those establishments that put profit before the community. This is not a rash statement but an matter of fact with one such business now closed by magistrates following an unsuccessful appeal against a rash of breaches of their license and both existing premises currently operating in an unauthorized manner, as they do not have planning permission for such use.
I also believe that there are a number of other establishments in our town who currently hold, but do not use, this type of license. All of which are close to areas of high family activity and in one case a primary school.
To my mind this is not acceptable and I urge you to give due weight to the protection of our young people from harm, which is a statutory duty of the licensing committee.

Comment not made in relation to the policy or conditions.

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Lane Theatre - Newquay (124)

30 Aug 2010

our theatre is run for the sole purpose of FAMILY ENTERTAINMENT ONLY.   Its a sad day that such  sexuual entertainment is allowed in our beautiful county.

Not a comment in relation to the policy or conditions. General statement.

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No details provided (129)

15 Oct 2010

Defined areas of our Towns should be given a ‘nil’ limit to sex establishments.

No areas defined.

None.

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YES

Mrs S – Gorran Haven (138)

20 Oct 2010

Para 11.2. I would prefer the numerical restriction to be ‘nil’ – especially if the aim is Public Health & Protection”!!

No areas defined.

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YES


1 See http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/ContentDetails.aspx?id=23464

http://www.lacors.gov.uk/lacors/upload/24193.pdf

2 See http://www.haringey.gov.uk/draft_sex_establishment_licensing_policy.pdf see paragraphs 3.2 to 3.4

Draft policy for sex establishments’ consultation between 30 September and 15 December 2010 for Haringey Borough. The Council of Haringey is made up of 57 councillors. Each of the 19 wards that make up the borough has three councillors, elected by residents of that ward every four years.



http://www.haringey.gov.uk/index/council/decision-making.htm


3 See http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/business/licensing/consultation_and_notices.aspx

4 See http://www.oxford.gov.uk/PageRender/decB/SexualEntertainmentVenueLicensing.htm

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