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Mark Meadows, the vice——
Mr. S
HERMAN
. If I could——
Mr. S
MITH
[continuing]. Chairman of the——
Mr. S
HERMAN
. Mr. Chairman, since the gentleman from Cali-
fornia mentioned me. I was simply saying that Chinese students 
here in the United States will learn our systems of free expression. 
I never weighed that benefit to our values with the technological 
progress that they might be able to furnish to their government. 
And so you would have to weigh one or the other. 
And I join with the gentleman in feeling that those who study 
sociology, political science, and history in the United States are 
more of a pure plus for our values. 
Mr. S
MITH
. Okay. 
The chair recognizes Mr. Meadows. 
Mr. M
EADOWS
. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will be very, very 
brief. 
Thank each of you for your willingness to testify here today, for 
illuminating an issue that, if we do not talk about, becomes a big-
ger and bigger problem. And so your testimony is not only impor-
tant, but it is also one that hopefully will make a change. 
The chairman has been a champion for human rights, freedom 
of speech and freedom of religion, unparalleled by anybody else 
here in Congress. And so it is an honor to serve with him. 
It certainly is one that we would love to know what legislative 
things or what pressure can be brought to bear for us to truly ad-
dress that. And coming from the great State of North Carolina, we 
have a lot of institutions of higher learning, and I enjoy a good re-
lationship with many of those. 
And so, Mr. Chairman, this is a fly-out day, and there are not 
many members, and so I wanted to be here to show that it is not 
only a priority for the chairman but a priority for many of the oth-
ers of us in Congress. So thank you for being here. 
I yield back. 
Mr. S
MITH
. Thank you, Mr. Meadows. 
Let me begin first by introducing our first distinguished panelist, 
Mr. Jeffrey Lehman, who is the first vice chancellor of NYU Shang-
hai. He has previously been chancellor and founding dean of the 
Peking University School of Transnational Law, president of Cor-
nell University, dean of the University of Michigan Law School, a 
tenured professor of law and public policy at the University of 
Michigan. He has also been a practicing lawyer in Washington, DC, 
a law clerk, including being a law clerk to Associate Justice John 
Paul Stevens of the United States Supreme Court. 
Welcome, Mr. Lehman. 
We will then hear from Ms. Susan Lawrence, who is a specialist 
in Asian affairs at the Congressional Research Service, a unit of 
the Library of Congress that provides the U.S. Congress with re-
search and analysis. She covers U.S.-China relations, Chinese for-
eign policy, Chinese domestic politics, Taiwan, and Mongolia. She 
joined CRS after a career spent largely in journalism in which she 
worked in Beijing for 11 years and reported from Washington, DC. 
Immediately prior to joining the CRS, Ms. Lawrence managed pub-
lic health advocacy programs in China for a Washington, DC-based 
NGO. 
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Then we will hear from Mr. Robert Daly, who has directed the 
Kissinger Institute on China and the U.S. at the Wilson Center 
since 2013. Previously, he was at the University of Maryland, 
where he served from 2007 until 2013. And, prior to that, he was 
American director of the Johns Hopkins University-Nanjing Uni-
versity Center for Chinese and American Studies for 6 years. Mr. 
Daly began his work in U.S.-China relations as a diplomat, serving 
as an officer in the U.S. Embassy in Beijing. He has taught at Cor-
nell, Syracuse, and has worked on TV and theater projects in 
China as a host, actor, and writer. 
We will then hear from Dr. Mirta Martin, who was appointed the 
ninth president of Fort Hays State University in 2014. Dr. Martin 
is the first female president in the 113-year history of Fort Hays 
State University and the first Hispanic president in the more-than-
150-year history of the entire Kansas Regents system. Dr. Martin’s 
career involves work in both public and private sectors, including 
special expertise in organizational behavior, management, institu-
tional advancement, and workplace development. She has worked 
as a senior banking executive, held numerous positions in higher 
education, and was appointed by the former Governor of Virginia 
to serve on the Virginia Council on the Status of Women. 
Then we will hear from Ms. Yaxue Cao, who was the founder and 
editor of ChinaChange.org, an English language Web site devoted 
to news and commentary related to civil society, the rule of law, 
and human rights activities in China. The site works to help the 
rest of the world understand what people are thinking and doing 
to effect change in the PRC. Reports and translations on China 
Change have been cited by The New York Times, Time Magazine, 
The Guardian, Telegraph, The Washington Post, and The New Re-
public, among others, and of course has been included in many con-
gressional reports. Ms. Cao grew up in northern China during the 
cultural revolution and studied literature in the United States. 
Mr. Lehman, if you could proceed. 
STATEMENT OF MR. JEFFREY S. LEHMAN, VICE CHANCELLOR, 
NEW YORK UNIVERSITY–SHANGHAI 
Mr. L
EHMAN
. Chairman Smith, other Members of Congress, I 
thank you for the opportunity to testify this afternoon. 
I have submitted detailed written testimony concerning my expe-
riences in China. Because of time constraints, my oral testimony 
will only touch the key points. 
I moved to China in 2008 because the president of Peking Uni-
versity asked me to help his university create the first law school 
outside the United States to offer a true J.D. Program taught in 
the American way. I hesitated at first, but people like Justice An-
thony Kennedy stressed my patriotic duty as an American to help 
develop the rule of law in China. And so I agreed to go, but I in-
sisted that I be given absolute control over the school’s curriculum 
and faculty appointments and that the school operate according to 
fundamental principles of academic freedom. 
Peking University has fully honored those promises. For exam-
ple, the students there study American constitutional principles 
with the legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union of 
Southern California, and they learn about international courts 
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