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initiative and then it got changed 

back.”

“So if we need to go back to 



looking at salaries and those types of 

adjustments, I’m all in favor of it. “

“One thing I’m proud of, I 

said I would never cash out leave or 

FICA or take a bonus. Happy with 

the salary I’m making. And that’s the 

answer to that question.”

Ella: “I believe that whole issue 

needs to be revisited.”

“You know since that time six 

years have passed, and you know 

you hear complaints about it all 

the time, why is the Council and 

Executives cashing out that 240 … 

so yeah I think it is ... something 

that can be revisited, you know 

‘cause since that time resolutions 

or motions have been made and if 

that’s what the people want, then 

I’m in support of that.”

Floyd: “… Old Agency DCA 

… As a part of the solution we gave 

every DCA chairman the language. 

So we all wanted to change it to the 

same language and you could never 

get the districts to agree.”

“Absolutely would not agree. “

“Some wanted to increase their 

Councilman’s salary up to $85,000. 

Some wanted to decrease it down to 

$40,000. So what did we do about 

it? Nothing we can do. We tried!”

“I even suggested every district 

have their own legislative policy. You 

district members voted….”

“If they feel that your 

Councilmen is worth $80,000 and 

that’s what you want to give them, 

give it to him. They couldn’t agree 

on that either.”

“So they’re, like I said ... they 

had to follow something. They went 

back to the old policy.”

“They had to follow something. 

Otherwise, it’s ....”

“I got interviewed by the FBI 

about three months ago on this 

particular situation, and they had 

asked about the leave, asked about 

the FICA, and I told them. ‘It’s an 

open book.’ I said.”

“The legislative policy is out 

there. Everybody knows what a 

Councilmen makes.”

“Whether they cash out their 

leave, that’s up to the individual, but 

everybody knows the potential that 

they can make. If they cash out all 

their 240 hours, they get their FICA 

and their salary.”

“Everybody knows what that is. 

It’s not anything new. It’s not any ... 

nobody’s hiding anything.”

“That’s what I explained to 

them.”

“Took about a half hour and I 



think they still somewhat disagreed.”

“I’m not going to throw any 

former Council people under the 

bus when you have somebody that’s 

in the hospital for a month, and 

they still cash out 240 hours.,”

“Hey, that’s on them, you 

know? If they never get re-elected, 

that’s on them ... the individual.”

“But we have to follow 

something and right now the 

current legislative policy is ... states 

that we get the FICA, get the 240. 

Mike knows this.”

“When we got in Council 

together back in the day, they cut 

everything in half.”

“They used to get 480 hours. 

We cut all that down.:”

“We cut bonuses out.

“People were getting three, four 

bonuses from being on different 

boards and working for the Tribe.”

“We cut all that out.”

“You get one $500 Christmas 

bonus by everyone else, no matter 

how many entities you work for or 

you support that you sat on, so we 

addressed all that.”

“It used to be higher. It really 

did.”

Danielle: “As a previous 



employee of Tribe I don’t agree with 

our Council and Executives cashing 

out their leave.”

“I never agreed with that 

because as an employee we work 

hard for those accrued hours and so 

I don’t agree with that.”

“I think that does need to 

be changed but like Mike ... like 

they said previously, it needs to be 

brought up to your district. The 

Exec candidates forum

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FICA, like they said it’s going to be 

fixed here, so ... but I don’t agree 

with when we get elected to these 

positions that it should be ... you’re 

there to provide a service to the 

people. You’re there to be there and 

be the voice for the people. Not 

be sitting there trying to benefit 

yourself and your own pocket for 

your own family.”

“I mean I’ve learned how to 

make ends meet on bare minimum. 

I’m a struggling entrepreneur and 

I am making it. So with that being 

said, and being a previous employee, 

I think those need to be changed 

and revisited.”

Eddie: “When me and the 

Chairman got on, I think this has 

been ... what it is it, four times, 

Dave? Four times and each time it’s 

been different.”

“I know Vice-Chairman says 

that it has been cut, but I know 

also that when we got in it was ... 

the healthcare was also cut. That’s 

something that wasn’t provided to 

the Councilmen anymore or they 

need to pay just like an employee, 

but as for the issue, I’m willing to 

address it. I know it’s been an issue 

with the public all the time.”

“It’s tough … when you get 

people saying, ‘All seven don’t have 

to do it, all seven need to do it.’”

“But I’m only willing to 

address the issue as long as it’s there. 

If it takes four more times we’ll keep 

doing it again, but for when I was 

Old Agency Councilman I guess 

I was just wondering where that 

$90,000 luncheon was?”

“I’m just kidding. I know 

myself I do use my leave. I don’t 

cash it all out.”

“I think that is wrong, cashing 

240 out when you know there’s 

times where you need to take 

(leave). I know there’s time when 

you need to take time off and I 

don’t agree with cashing out the 240 

either.”

Myrna: “In regards to Initiative 

One, I actually signed that petition 

and you know what, the elders went 

through a lot of time and effort to 

get that petition done, that initiative 

done, and get all the signatures, and 

I guess it hurt my feelings at that 

time when it went to Council then 

it was disregarded.”

“And I guess it just goes back 

to the voice of the people.”

“The voice of the people have 

spoken at that time and yet it was 

disregarded.”

“So I think it’s just an example 

that you can do all that, make 

all that effort, and get all those 

signatures, and you still ... the 

Constitution was violated because 

they did not adopt that, what the 

elders wanted at that time, that 

legislative policy change.”

“And as far as that goes, I 

guess in my mind being a salaried 

employee, I would think you 

wouldn’t get 240 hours to begin 

with because as a salaried employee 

you would be able to take your time 

off and still get paid….”

Lisa: “I feel like the initiative, 

Initiative One, has gone by, but I 

feel like it could be revisited.”

“When the people come 

together and put this together I 

think as Executives and as Council 

we need to acknowledge what the 

people want.”

“So if the people were to come 

and say they wanted to revise the 

legislative policy, I would be in 

support of that.”

“I don’t feel like the 240 should 

be afforded to us because we are 

salaried employees.”

“I’m not sure how the 

healthcare has changed since then, 

but I feel like it should apply to us 

as it does Tribal personnel, that if 

you’re an employee you pay for your 

healthcare, so I think that should 

come out of pocket. So, I’d be open 

to what the people … want.”

Martha: “We got tons of 

questions, but we’d like to give all 

of you a chance to give some final 

remarks this evening and I’ve got 

about five questions here that I 

would like you to address in your 

final remarks, okay? And then to let 

everybody else know on October 

23rd, we will be having another 

candidates forum for the people 

who move forward after the primary. 

You can put that in your calendars. 

That’s a Tuesday, four weeks from 

now … October 23rd.

“Okay, these are the questions 

you should listen to … address in 

your final remarks. “Do you support 

disenrolling sexual predators from 

the Tribe?” That’s one. “Do we 

have intellectual copyright now for 

medicinal plants?” Also, “what do 

we have regarding water with our 

aquifer?” Here’s another one. “What 

can the Tribe do to see that Dakota 

language or Dakota history exists 

in schools is ... there is no Dakota 

language and Dakota history … in 

schools so what can the Tribe do 

to get that implemented because 

we do have a lot of Native children 

in schools.” The next one is, 

“Why did the Tribe let off when 

Gilbert Robertson was buried on 

a Saturday?” I guess you should’ve 

asked that a long time ago.”

[Crosstalk/noise in the audio.]

Danielle: “I’m going to 

answer this question … What are 

some of the things we want to do 

with our aquifer … I serve on an 

EPAC committee, Environmental 

Protection Advisory Committee, 

and I believe that our aquifer …  it’s 

so huge … the one by Veblen, and 

I know they’ve done research on 

it, and they had a geologist come 

in and they did do the research to 

make sure it wasn’t ... our water 

aquifer wasn’t being contaminated.”

“There’s so much clay and 

everything else, the rocks and clay 

that filter any kind of water that 

comes through so that ... the aquifer 

is protected.”

(Editor’s note: Our apology to 

Danielle, but that, as well as other 

information provided to OEP and 

the Tribe by Riverside Dairy, is 

misleading. There are variegated 

strips of both rock/clay as well as 

sand throughout that watershed, so 

contamination can and does filter 

down to pose a threat to the quality 

of the Veblen Aquifer. No, the 

aquifer is not protected. [SWO Mni 

Wiconi.])

“We could utilize our own 

aquifer ... I think one of the things 

is we could use it with our own 

water bottling company. I know 

right now, I mean, everywhere you 

look, we’re purchasing water.”

“Another thing that we could 

do is use that source, that resource 

for our own reservation, within 

our own reservation boundaries, 

it’s a possibility ‘cause right now we 

run on rural water. There’s a lot of 

different things that we can do as 

a Tribe with our aquifer and right 

now we’re not doing anything with 

it.”

“I just wanted to let you guys 



all know that it is a really good water 

source … with a filtering system 

that automatically has, that Mother 

Earth gave it.”

“That water will always be 

protected.”

“For economic development, 

is maybe considering our own water 

bottling company.”

Ella: “One of the questions 

concerned intellectual property 

rights on our medicinal plants.”

“And I don’t know if I can refer 

to THPO or Tamara … I know 

at one time the Tribal Historic 

Preservation Office was working 

with a lawyer to work on the 

protection of our medicinal plants 

and medicines along with our sites 

….”


“The Big Coulee District was at 

one time working on a tea project, 

trying to obtain a patent for that 

tea.”


“I do believe that it’s 

important, that we need to protect 

those resources that we have 

to ensure that they’re not over-

harvested, not only by non-natives, 

but even our own Tribal members.”

“The second thing I wanted to 

answer was about our aquifer.”

“Never in the selling of our 

lands did we give up our water 

rights, our underground water 

rights.”


“And I don’t know that at 

any point that we really enforced 

that or exercised the right to our 

underground water, but I think that 

we’ll definitely need some help with 

that, you know having an attorney 

that has experience in federal law, 

enforcing … our rights … how the 

Winter’s Doctrine is going to work 

in our favor when it comes to access 

to water … making our reservation 

viable and livable.”

Ella also brought up “… the 

Keystone pipeline … (how) it is 

affecting us. And what are we doing 

to protect ourselves?”

“A lot of it goes back to federal 

law and having an understanding 

of that and ensuring that our 

leadership has an understanding … 

also our Tribe, our Tribal members. 

Because our Tribal members are the 

ones that are making some of these 

decisions.”

“I think we need better 

communication with our 

population.”

“The decisions that are being 

made, a lot of times we don’t have 

information prior to decisions being 

made.”

“I think we really need to work 



on communications. The Sota, 

the radio station (aren’t) the only 

thing. A lot of people are utilizing 

social media … and are changing 

with the times to reach our Tribal 

membership.”

Eddie: “The question was 

taking decisions back to the 

districts, before they’re made by 

Tribal Council.”

“In all reality if that was true I 

think everybody would do that.”

“But there’s sometimes you 

have to make decisions on behalf of 

your districts.”

“From being a former 

Councilman, on behalf of your 

district without being able to take 

information back. I think it would 

be ideal for every Council member 

to want to take their information 

back so they know how to vote and 

make sure they’re voting correctly.”

“But at the same time, that’s 

why you voted them in there. 

They’re your voice, and sometimes 

the decisions have to be made in 

a timely manner. They don’t have 

time to take it back to district. They 

might miss out on grants, they 

might miss out of a few things. 

But at the same time I think every 

Councilperson would love to take 

them back to your districts to get 

approval, but sometimes that just 

doesn’t happen.”

Michael: “I don’t remember all 

five questions, but I’m going to try 

to give some final comments.”

“I think that when there are 

financial issues or expenditures that 

are over and beyond the budget that 

Council approves that those should 

be taken back to the communities 

for input.”

“I think you really need to 

create a formal process for budgeting 

and live by it.”

“The other thing that strikes 

me on some of these issues is that 

they really should be questions that 

are put to the voters and get input 

from them.”

“They don’t necessarily have to 

be referendums or initiatives. But 

just survey type things that go out 

to the General Council, so you have 

input to how the people feel overall 

on them.”

“One of the things I want to 

say in closing is that as I look down 

the table here at the candidates.

“I know each and every one 

of them in a different way and in a 

good way.”

“We’re not adversaries up here.”

“We’re all trying to provide you 

with the perspectives that we have.”

“And that I believe that we’re 

trying to better our Dakota society.”

“And I think of them each in a 

positive way.”

“And I hope you know that if I 

offend any one of them, I apologize. 

‘Cause I know you’re trying your 

best.”


“And I want to thank you for 

the opportunity to be at this public 

forum that the elderly have put out 

for us. And I hope all of us live a 

good life and better our families and 

our communities by our behaviors 

and or ways.”

Dave: I’m gonna tackle 

probably the most challenging 

question of the five that hasn’t been 

addressed yet.”

“Would you support dis-

enrolling a sexual predator.”

“And I hope for those of you 

that I don’t have your support yet 

that this be a testament of myself 

not being afraid to challenge an 

issue, or to answer an issue that is 

very challenging.”

“You know, I know for a 

fact, not from experience, but 

from visiting with people that it’s 

unfortunate the ones that violated 

or abused, first of all it’s a very sad 

thing. It’s unfortunate.”

“And although I’ve been very 

critical of some of the actions of our 

people for many things, drugs. I 

don’t hate anybody. I might dislike 

what actions they’ve taken or some 

things they did, but I don’t harbor 

hate. I really don’t.”

“People like the Taliban, those 

kind of people I could see hating, 

and I have hated. They’re very cruel 

people that they don’t care what type 

of religion in, if you don’t believe in 

Islam, they will behead you.”

“So I do know what hate is, but 

I don’t hate the actions. I don’t hate 

the people, I dislike the action. But 

I have close friends, I’m not, again, 

I’m just answering the question 

because it’s a very tough question.”

“The other ones are easy.”

“I have friends that were dating 

girls that were a year or two younger 

than them. They were high school 

sweethearts. And he turns 18. And 

he’s still dating a 17 year old he’s 

been dating since he was 14 and 15. 

And all of a sudden he’s being, they 

get into a fight, the family goes after 

him. And now he’s a convicted felon 

for violating a minor.”

“When nobody said anything 

for all those years he was with her … 

there’s a couple of my close friends 

out there that are like that. And they 

carry that conviction with them.”

“So, that’s really unfortunate.”

“The question was would 

you support dis-enrolling a sexual 

predator.”

“For those that have 

committed serious violations 

against an innocent person, again, 

I’m not speaking from experience, 

but just from visiting with people, 

some of these people that are 

committing, we talked about 

historical trauma, there’s also trauma 

that has happened to them. And so 

it’s a learned behavior that wasn’t 

addressed when they were young. 

That it was okay for priests and 

Catholic church to violate young 

boys and girls. Especially young 

boys.”

“And so it’s a really difficult 



question to answer, and my answer 

is, it’s my answer, so I own it. 

Depending on the severity of what 

happened, if they are continuing to 

perpetrate, if they’re two, three time 

violators, I could see banishment 

being incorporated, and having that 

person be banished.”

“But I believe, in Dakota 

(values). One of them is Wahopida.”

“Again, I don’t condone the 

action. But having compassion. 

Maybe there’s been times I’ve seen 

healing between the violator and 

those that have been violated.”

“So my answer to that, ‘cause 

it’s the most challenging question, 

and it hasn’t been answered yet 

is I would be in favor if it was 

a continued happening. If it’s 

happening continually.”

“Intellectual copyright for 

plants, there is none at this time that 

I know of.”

“I think there should be on … 

all those medicines.”

“There should be an intellectual 

copyright.”

“Why isn’t that happening? It’s 

important to own those medicines.”

“But we’re dealing with meth 

right now. We’re dealing with meth, 

we’re dealing with heroin, we’ve 

got a lot of other bigger issues, 

and if any one person thinks they 

can come in and fix it, let me be a 

testament that you can’t. Because I 

thought I could, and I can’t. I can’t 

fix everything at once. We have a 

good team and we’re trying to do 

the best we can.”

“Water code … we brought in 

Wes Martel. He’s in my opinion a 

water expert.”

“We are working. We haven’t 

come back to the table in at least 

a couple months. But we have 

initiated the early stages, the early 

process of getting a water code.”

“Brought him in, he had a four 

day visit with a lot of OEP, with a 

lot of people … there’s some people 

in this room that had participated in 

that discussion.”

“We haven’t got back to getting 

the code. The process was initiated. 

That’s something we need to 

complete.”

“Dakota language at the public 

schools, impact aid money, we can 

talk about that all day.”

“I think our school board 

rep, which is Deb (Flute), she’s a 

member of our Tribe. I don’t know, 

is there any Tribal members on the 

public school board? Just Deb I 

think.”

“We can get the message up 



to her. We can get Dr. Johnson, 

Education Department.”

“Next time the Education 

comes in, it’s more of a Tribal 

Secretary duty, but Dakota language 

is important to me. It should be in 

the public schools, even if the Tribe’s 

got to pay for somebody to be in 

there.”

“Why did the Tribe let 



off, get with Robertson from 

my office. There was some 

miscommunication.”

“Not blaming the family, but 

there was a lot of people in my ear 

about what had happened.”

“From my standpoint, I’m not 

blaming anybody, but there was 

some miscommunication from, not 

from the Executive side.”

“District’s involved in big 

decision. I think there ought to be 

a general assembly. And this goes to 

Constitution.”

“My final comments, this Tribe 

is growing at a fast rate.”

“That number of 30% 

growth, which means our Tribal 

Constitution’s probably never going 

to get changed.”

“A lot of things in that 

Constitution, the governing 

document of our Tribe, is never 

going to get changed unless we 

figure out a way to maybe go to the 

percentage of people that actually 

voted.”

“If there’s 2,000 people that 



voted, I could see 50% being the 

mark that if you’re going to change 

the Constitution or anything in that 

Constitution, that should be the 

mark. It’s a reasonable mark.”

“If we’re only getting an 

average of 2,000 people voting in 

elections based on the last number 

of people who actually voted, not 

the entire voting population. Which 

is close to 7,000 now. So you do 

the math, we’re not going to get to 

30%. Very tough to get to 30%.”

“Districts involved, again, it 

goes, my last comment here.”

“I talk to people that say what 

about my voice. I work four to 12. I 

can’t go to district meetings. I work 

at Dakota Western, midnight to 

eight. I can’t go to district meetings. 

I’m getting out of bed, I’m supposed 

to be getting ready for work, I can’t 

go to district. So what about their 

voice? What about their voice?”

“Therefore my solution to 

that, which has always been on 

big decisions like $30 million 

dollar loan from Shakopee, like 

Traverse District was opposed at 

the time, ‘cause we didn’t have 

enough information to make a good 

decision for our district.”

“I brought that to Council, 

voted against the loan.”

“But a handful of people 

supported their District 

Councilman, and the motion was 

passed.”


“I do agree that we have a 

beautiful admin building. We do 

have some challenges up there.”

“But I would like to see input, 

good input, not just 30 or 40 people 

from districts going to a meeting 

and having it be a 15 to 16 vote 

whether we go get $30 million or 

not. So districts involved, yes. But 

there also needs to be more general 

council meetings.”

Eddie: “I’ll start off with 

districts’ approval before any 

decision to make. I know I was 

sitting on Council that I would 

always take the issues made 

there, and I understand what the 

Chairman was saying about there’s 

only 20 people there, we need to 

find a way for other people … 




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