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Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: Rowland Hazard

> Several questions/myths regarding Rowland Hazard recently came up at our

> District meeting. I'm hoping the more knowledgable folks in

AAHistoryLovers

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> 1. Did Rowland initially want to work with Freud and then Adler before

going

> to Jung?

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> 2. Is it true Rowland got drunk on the return voyage after working with

Dr.

> Jung and he simply turned right around, making it a round trip? or was he

> sober in the States for a short period of time prior to returning?

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> 3. Also, what was the name of the ship?

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> Many thanks in advance,

> Roger

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++++Message 1713. . . . . . . . . . . . The AA Grapevine Digital Archive

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 3/15/2004 12:41:00 PM

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In June 2004, coinciding with the sixtieth anniversary of the magazine, the

new AA Grapevine Digital Archive will be up and running, and you'll be able to

go online and access every Grapevine article and letter ever published (all

12,000 of them), including the 150 articles Bill W. wrote for the magazine.

FREE UNLIMITED ACCESS for ALL for the entire month of June 2004.

With the AA Grapevine Digital Archive's search engine, you'll be able to

locate not just an individual article but a group of articles related by

topic. Just type in a key word, such as 'meditation'' or 'anonymity,'' and

you'll have a wealth of articles on the subject at your fingertips. You'll be

able to find articles by departments, such as Around AA or Ham On Wry, as well

as by author, geographic location, or issue. If you just want to browse,

you'll be able to scroll through topics to see what the Fellowship and its

friends have had to say about spirituality, twelfth-stepping, or the Concepts.

The subscription process will begin July 1, 2004. Starting then, you will be

able to subscribe to the AA Grapevine Digital Archive in the following ways:

1) Thirty-day access - $2.00

2) One-year access for Grapevine subscribers - $10.00 (until October 31, 2004

only, a special introductory rate is available for current and new Grapevine

subscribers - $5.00 for one-year access).

3) One-year access for non-Grapevine subscribers - $15.00

You must go online to subscribe, and you'll be able to link directly to the

Digital Archive from the Home Page:

www.aagrapevine.org

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++++Message 1714. . . . . . . . . . . . In Memory of Bobbie (1953)

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 3/15/2004 12:44:00 PM

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April 1953 AA Grapevine

IN MEMORY OF BOBBIE

By Bill

MARGARET B., affectionately known throughout AA as "Bobbie," passed away in

her sleep on February 17th of an unforeseen heart ailment.

She had headed our General Service Office at New York in all the years of AA's

adolescence - that exciting but fearsome period when no one could tell for

sure whether our fledgling society would survive or not.

Across her desk came thousands of pleas for help from individuals and hundreds

from growing but anxious groups who wanted to be advised of the latest AA

experience in meeting the problems that assailed them. It was out of this

experience that AA's tradition was formed. And upon our tradition her devoted

labor set a mark which will endure so long as God will have our society last.

Her pioneering work has proved an inspiring precedent for every Intergroup and

Foundation secretary, and her departure creates in the heart of each of her

friends a void which can only be filled by the memory of what she left us and

the assurance that her destiny is happy and secure.

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++++Message 1715. . . . . . . . . . . . Recovery, Unity, Service - Worldwide

(1978)

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 3/17/2004 2:12:00 PM

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The theme of the Fifth World Service Meeting (1978) was 'Recovery, Unity,

Service - Worldwide.'' The keynote address on this theme by David P., delegate

from Columbia, was so brilliant it was not only acclaimed by his immediate

audience in Helsinki, Finland, it became a kind of minor classic as it was

reproduced and distributed widely in the Fellowship. It is reproduced in full

here:

'The event we now open is indeed wonderful. We have gathered because, in spite

of all our differences, we have something in common that binds us together

with strong ties. We have known the process of a painful sickness. We have

achieved, by the grace of God, a recovery which now allows us to live and to

love again. We are involved in the spirit of unity that gives us strength. We

are impelled by a desire to give service. We are the inheritors of the

Legacies of A.A.

'The astronomers speak about certain bodies in outer space which, having lost

their generating function, shrink slowly and inexorably, concentrating

themselves in such a way that they shrink to infinitesimal size, but acquire

an impressive gravity. They are the so-called 'black holes,'' of very small

volume, with terrific weight. Their density becomes so concentrated that a

gravitational vortex is formed around them, a ghostly and catastrophic hole

that devours everything that passes by; light and radio and energy waves are

absorbed and drawn by that irresistible whirlpool.

'The same thing happened in our alcoholic life. Emotional overload led to a

shrinking of our mentality. A gloomy emptiness surrounded us. A tremendous

storage of negative energy took place, aided by our own guilt and suffering.

The greater our emotional load, the smaller our spiritual dimension. The

greater the density of our selfishness, the shorter the scope of our horizons.

Black holes in the space of our lives were sinking and paralyzing our

willpower, our capacities, our dreams, our ambitions, goals, and outlooks.

'Unlike those surreal bodies, we did have a way out of our condition. The

lifesaving message of A.A. came to us. And the tiny universe that confined us

started to expand again. We began to untie our imagination, our mind, and our

good will. We were ready to live and let live. Spiritual life was reborn. We

found harmony with brothers, God, and ourselves. And we called that Recovery.

'What, then is Recovery for me?

'It is not perfection, but the search for it. It is not lethargy, but a state

of awareness. It is realizing that there is a place for us in the world.

It is acknowledging that we, alone, cannot do anything, but with the help of

God we can accomplish everything.

It is being sure that we walk along the path, even though we make our path as

we walk.

It is living today as we would like to have lived yesterday, and as we wish to

live tomorrow.

It is knowing that our journey has a meaning, a reason for being.

It is a constant spiritual awakening. And, above all, recovery is a working

faith.

'We alcoholics have already suffered at the hands of a powerful enemy. We do

not wish to fight against anybody, not even against alcohol. We have endured

our illness physically, mentally, and morally. When we awoke to reality, we

stood amidst the ruins of a shattered life, a destroyed morality, and a

smashed dignity.

'Through the grace of God, however, we have survived by joining a society of

equals. We need each other in a harmonious environment in order to survive. We

needed Unity.

'What is Unity for me?

'It is not a monody, but a symphony of individual voices.

It is not a compact law, but a mixture of different opinions.

It is knowing that our alcoholic brother or sister has the same right to life,

happiness, and peace as we have.

It is feeling that the word 'we'' stands before the word 'I.''

It is admitting that we are all equal before God.

It is acceptance that different paths can lead us toward our final destiny.

It is a stripping of our pride, so we won't feel greater or lesser than our

fellows.

It is not doing to our neighbor what we wouldn't like done to us.

And, above all, unity is a working humility - humility to accept the ultimate

authority that expresses itself in our group conscience; humility to welcome

anybody who wishes A.A. membership; humility to understand that our service

tasks do not grant us power, command, or authority; humility to keep anonymity

that reminds us to place principles before personalities.

'In our drinking days, when the world was only a large 'nobody's land'' we had

selfishness as compass and our own fulfillment as schedule. Money,

intelligence, imagination, and initiative were used only as tools for

constructing a universe fitted to our size. When our castle made out of cards

fell down on our own heads, someone else came to rescue us, understood us, and

delivered the message that saved us. So much was put at our disposal -

literature to read, experience freely and gladly given, and a meeting place

where a cup of coffee was waiting for us.

'At first we received and used these services, taking them for granted. But

gradually we began to feel that a treasure, which we had no right to hide

away, was being placed in our hands. We had to give to someone else the light

of hope that had illuminated our darkness. It was unfair to let the fruits we

had harvested rot in the barns of our laziness. And so we turned to Service.

'What is Service for me?

'It is not altruism, but a need for survival. It is not charity, but an

expression of gratitude.

It is the responsibility of lending a hand to our brother or sister who is

drowning. It is recognizing that, by giving ourselves to others, we will find

our own souls.

It is learning that they who give the most, receive the most.

It is extending to other alcoholics the sobriety that was bestowed on us.

It is working so that others get a permanent place in the new world we have

discovered. It is remembering the words of Bill W.: 'We must carry A.A.'s

message; otherwise we ourselves may fall into decay and those who have not yet

been given the truth may die.''

And, above all, service is a working love.

'It is love that works - unselfish, patient, tolerant, anonymous love, love

that doesn't have a price tag on it. Love that has no envy and that endures

everything.

'In the name of John my fellow delegate, and all the A.A.`s of Colombia, I

would like to thank you for your kind invitation to address you. May God help

all the participants in this meeting, so that we may be able to find new and

better approaches to bringing to all alcoholics in the world our Legacies of

Recovery with Unity through Service.

'Finally, we should like to congratulate our Finnish brethren for having

undertaken, in such a brilliant, responsible, and effective way, the

organization of this meeting.

'Thank you very much."

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++++Message 1716. . . . . . . . . . . . Shep Cornell - Compiled

From: [e-mail] . . . . . . . . . . . . 3/17/2004 4:52:00 AM

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The following is compiled from previous messages which have been deleted.

Nancy

Hello Group,

I had someone ask me a good question that I could answer or could not find any

additional information.

So I thought I would ask the HISTORYLOVERS

"What ever happened to Shep Cornwell?"

Thanks for your help

Charles from California

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Hello Charles and Group:

Charles, I think you have Shep Cornell in mind--no "w" in the name.

I talked with Shep by phone in 1980. He was then retired and living in

Earlysville, VA, right next to Charlottesville. It must not be very large,

because I don't find it in my Rand McNally Road Atlas.

Shep knew Bill, Lois, and Ebby from the 1920s days in Manchester. He was a

successful investor and even owned a seat on the New York Stock Exchange. I

don't know what circumstances led him into the Oxford Group, but he was a

member in 1934 and conspired with Cebra Graves to call on Ebby, who was having

lots of trouble right there in Manchester. Rowland Hazard joined them, and

became the key person in sponsoring Ebby.

Shep had an apartment in Manhattan and Ebby, after being taken there

(presumably by Rowland), soon moved to Calvary Mission, which was way over on

the East Side from Calvary Church. Shep was involved with Bill's early

attempts to fit in with the Oxford Group and apparently didn't think Bill was

very sincere at the time. He was well-heeled enough to take all of them to

dinner at a time when Bill and Ebby were both flat broke.

Shep was not an alcoholic, although he was abstaining at that time--much in

keeping with Oxford Group practice. (My belief is that most of the Groupers

didn't understand the crucial difference between normal drinkers and

alcoholics.) He told me that he drank moderately on occasions and had no

problem.

I have the impression that Shep didn't stay with the Oxford Group as the years

rolled on. He served in the Army during World War II, reaching the rank of

lieutenant colonel. After the war, he eventually joined a large manufacturing

firm in Milwaukee and became general manager. (I can't remember the name of

the company, but it was a large producer of automobile frames and farm silos.)

He was comfortably retired when I talked with him, and spent his days golfing

and, I assume, looking after his investments. Lois remembered him as a fine

golfer, and it's even possible that Bill played a few rounds with him in 1929,

when Bill was still flying high on Wall Street.

I heard some years ago that Shep had passed on, but I don't know the year.

It's possible that his name is in the Social Security Death Index. I believe

his full name was Shepard or Sheppard. Perhaps other History Lovers can do due

diligence and track this down.~~~~~~~~

Mel Barger

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Check Francis Cornell 1899-1985 in SSDI -- I think he's the one.

(I believe it was Francis Shepard Cornell.) -- Jared Lobdell

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The info below was culled from the sources noted.

SOURCE REFERENCES:

AABB Alcoholics Anonymous, the Big Book, AAWS

AACOA AA Comes of Age, AAWS

AGAA The Akron Genesis of Alcoholics Anonymous, by Dick B (soft cover)

BW-RT Bill W by Robert Thompson (soft cover)

BW-FH Bill W by Francis Hartigan (hard cover)

BW-40 Bill W My First 40 Years, autobiography (hard cover)

EBBY Ebby the Man Who Sponsored Bill W by Mel B (soft cover)

GB Getting Better Inside Alcoholics Anonymous by Nan Robertson (soft cover)

LR Lois Remembers, by Lois Wilson

MSBW My Search for Bill W, by Mel B. (soft cover)

NG Not God, by Ernest Kurtz (expanded edition, soft cover)

NW New Wine, by Mel B (soft cover)

PIO Pass It On, AAWS

1934

July, Ebby Thacher was approached in Manchester, VT by his friends Cebra

Graves (an attorney) and F Sheppard (Shep) Cornell (a NY stockbroker). Both

were Oxford Group members who had done considerable drinking with Ebby and

were abstaining from drinking. They informed Ebby of the OG in VT but Ebby was

not quite ready yet to stop drinking. (EBBY 51-55, PIO 113)

August, Cebra G and Shep C vacationed at Rowland Hazard’s house in

Bennington, VT. Cebra learned that Ebby T was about to be committed to

Brattleboro Asylum. Cebra, Shep and Rowland decided to make Ebby “a

project.” (NG 309)

November (late), Ebby T (who was staying at the Calvary Mission in NYC)

visited Bill W at 182 Clinton St and shared his recovery experience "one

alcoholic talking to another.” (AACOA vii, 58-59) A few days later, Ebby

returned with Shep C. They spoke to Bill about the Oxford Group. Bill did not

think too highly of Shep. Lois recalled that Ebby visited several times, once

even staying for dinner. (AACOA vii, NG 17-18, 31`, BW-FH 57-58, NW 22-23, PIO

111-116, BW-RT 187-192)

December 18, Bill W left Towns Hospital and began working with drunks. He and

Lois attended Oxford Group meetings with Ebby T and Shep C at Calvary House.

The Rev Sam Shoemaker was the rector at the Calvary Church (the OG’s US

headquarters). The church was on 4th Ave (now Park Ave) and 21st St. Calvary

House (where OG meetings were usually held) was at 61 Gramercy Park. Calvary

Mission was located at 346 E 23rd St. (AABB 14-16, AACOA vii, LR 197, BW-40

155-160, NG 24-25, PIO 127, GB 32-33, AGAA 144)

Arthur S.

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++++Message 1717. . . . . . . . . . . . Harry Tiebout Obituary (1966)

From: Lash, William (Bill) . . . . . . . . . . . . 3/21/2004 5:30:00 PM

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July 1966 AA Grapevine

In Memory of

HARRY

BY the time this issue of the Grapevine reaches its readers, the whole world

of AA will have heard of the passing of our well-beloved friend, Dr. Harry M.

Tiebout, the first psychiatrist ever to hold up the hands of our Fellowship

for all to see. His gifts of courageous example, deep perception of our needs,

and constant labor in our behalf have been - and always will be - values quite

beyond our reckoning.

It began like this: The year was early 1939, and the book, Alcoholics

Anonymous, was about to hit the press. To help with the final edit of that

volume we had made prepublication copies in multilith form. One of them fell

into Harry's hands. Though much of the content was then alien to his own

views, he read our up-coming book with deep interest. Far more significantly,

he at once resolved to show the new volume to a couple of his patients, since

known to us as "Marty" and "Grenny." These were the toughest kind of

customers, and seemingly hopeless.

At first, the book made little impression on this pair. Indeed, its heavy

larding with the word "God," so angered Marty that she threw it out her

window, flounced off the grounds of the swank sanitarium where she was, and

proceeded to tie on a big bender.

Grenny didn't carry a rebellion quite so far; he played it cool. When Marty

finally turned up, shaking badly, and asked Dr. Harry what next to do, he

simply grinned and said, "You'd better read that book again!" Back in her

quarters, Marty finally brought herself to leaf through its pages once more. A

single phrase caught her eye and it read, "We cannot live with resentment."

The moment she admitted this to herself, she was filled with a "transforming

spiritual experience."

Forthwith she attended a meeting. It was at Clinton Street, Brooklyn, where

Lois and I lived. Returning to "Blythewood" she found Grenny intensely

curious. Her first words to him were these: "Grenny, we are not alone any

more!"

This was the beginning of recovery for both - recoveries that have lasted

until this day. Watching their unfoldment, Harry was electrified. Only a week

before they had both presented stone walls of obstinate resistance to his

every approach. Now they talked, and freely. To Harry these were the facts -

and brand new facts. Scientist and man of courage that he was, Harry did not

for a moment look the other way. Setting aside his own convictions about

alcoholism and its neurotic manifestations, he soon became convinced that AA

had something, perhaps something big.

All the years afterwards, and often at very considerable risk to his

professional standing, Harry continued to endorse AA. Considering Harry's

professional standing, this required courage of the highest order.

Let me share some concrete examples. In one of his early medical papers - that

noted one on 'surrender'' (Reprinted from the "Quarterly Journal of Studies on

Alcohol," Dec., 1954, pp. 610-621, available from the National Council on

Alcoholism) - he had declared this ego-reducing practice to be not only basic

to AA, but also absolutely fundamental to his own practice of psychiatry. This

took humility as well as fortitude. It will always be a bright example for us

all.

Nevertheless this much was but a bare beginning. In 1944, helped by Dr. Kirby

Collier of Rochester and Dwight Anderson of New York, Harry had persuaded the

American Medical Society of the State of New York to let me, a layman, read a

paper about AA, at their annual gathering. Five years later this same trio,

again spear-headed by Harry, persuaded the American Psychiatric Association to

invite the reading of another paper by me - this time in their 1949 Annual

Meeting at Montreal. By then, AA had about 100,000 members, and many

psychiatrists had already seen at close range our impact on their patients.

For us of AA who were present at that gathering it was a breathtaking hour. My

presentation would be "the spiritual experience," as we AAs understood it.

Surely we could never get away with this! To our astonishment the paper was

extremely well received - judging, at least, from the sustained applause.

Immediately afterwards, I was approached by a most distinguished old

gentleman. He introduced himself as an early president of the American

Psychiatric Association. Beaming he said, "Mr. W., it is very possible that I

am the only one of my colleagues here today who really believes in 'spiritual

experience' as you do. Once upon a time, I myself had an awakening much akin