early 1970's.
From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 11:12:00 AM
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From (BruceKen at aol.com)
AA's First Meeting on the West Coast
From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2009 3:07:00 PM
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I would like to have a compilation of all the
there if possible.
during the annual Workshops.
If you're going to be there, please email me at:
(Shakey1aa at aol.com)
Shakey Mike Gwirtz
(cdknapp at pacbell.net)
The 13th National Archives Workshop will be
Sept 24 thru 27th, 2009
in Woodland Hills, California
[a western suburb of LOS ANGELES]
See their flyer at:
http://www.aanationalarchivesworkshop.com/
______________________________
From: "Lee Carroll"
(FriendLeeCPA at msn.com)
September 24th - 27th 2009
Warner Center Marriott Hotel
21850 Oxnard Blvd
Woodland Hills, California 91367
phone: 818 887 4800
Room rate = $110/night plus tax (mention
NAAAW), cutoff date Sept 7th
Special Guest:
National Archives Workshop Archivist Gail L.
Preservation/Conservation Presenters:
David C. (Washington), Perry D. (Arkansas),
Terry L. (Arkansas) using a hands on format
Chair - George R
818 378-4186 NAAAW09@aol.com
Co-chair - Mike S
805 338 5140 aaarchivesmike@sbcglobal.net
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++++Message 5851. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group in Texas: Houston
From: Arthur S . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2009 8:00:00 PM
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AA Started in Texas in February 1940
In late January and early February 1940, the Houston Press ran a series of
six articles about AA written anonymously by Larry J (Jewell). He was
rescued from Cleveland's skid row by the AA members there and had set out by
train from Cleveland to live and work in Houston. Larry had never attended
an AA meeting. While reading the Big Book on the train he had a spiritual
awakening. Soon after the articles were published Larry was joined by Roy Y
(Yeargan) and Ed H (Hudson) and AA started in Texas. The first Texas AA
meeting was on March 15, 1940 at the Houston YMCA. The news articles also
attracted the first Texas woman AA member, Benita C, who later married Larry
J.
The Houston Press Editor, Allen C Bartlett, hired Larry as an editorial
writer. In April 1940, the Alcoholic Foundation reprinted Larry J's Houston
Press articles as AA's first pamphlet. Sadly, though, Larry J later returned
to drinking and it lead to his death in 1944.
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Info on the date of Dr Bob's last drink (based on some old, old notes)
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The date of June 17, 1935 looks pretty compelling as Dr Bob's sober date.
The AMA Archives in Chicago, IL has confirmed that the 1935 Atlantic City,
NJ Convention that Dr Bob attended was held from Monday to Friday June
10-14. Images of the AMA convention program and session minutes are
circulating on the web showing June 10-14, 1935 as the dates of the
convention.
There are also good clues in AA literature for a deduction.
In "AA Comes of Age" (pgs 70-71) Bill W writes "So he [Dr Bob] went to the
Atlantic City Medical Convention and nothing was heard of him for several
days." In "Dr Bob and the Good Oldtimers" (pgs 72-75) it cites (with editing
for brevity): "Dr Bob ... began drinking ... as he boarded the train to
Atlantic City. On his arrival he bought several quarts on his way to the
hotel. That was Sunday night. He stayed sober on Monday until after dinner
... On Tuesday, Bob started drinking in the morning and ... [checked out of
the hotel] ... The next thing he knew ... he was ... in the ... home of his
office nurse ... The blackout was certainly more than 24 hours long ... Bill
and Anne had waited for five days from the time Bob left before they heard
from the nurse ... She had picked him up that morning at the Akron railroad
station ... As Bill and Sue [Smith] remembered, there was a 3-day sobering
up period ... Upon Dr Bob's return, they had discovered that he was due to
perform surgery 3 days later ... At 4 o'clock on the morning of the
operation [Bob] . said 'I am going through with this ...' On the way to City
Hospital ... Bill ... gave him a beer ..." In the video "Bill's Own Story"
Bill W says he gave Dr Bob a beer and "goofball" [a barbiturate] the morning
of the surgery. The same information is repeated in "Pass It On" pgs
147-149. See also "Not God" pgs 32-33.
Estimate of timeline based on the above:
June 09 Sunday: started drinking on the train to Atlantic City - in New
Jersey he bought several quarts and checked into Atlantic City hotel
June 10 Monday: stayed sober until after dinner
June 11 Tuesday: started drinking in the morning - later checked out of the
hotel.
June 12 Wednesday: was in a blackout (likely greater than 24 hours)
June 13 Thursday: blackout continues (may have arrived at Akron train
station)
June 14 Friday: picked up by nurse in the morning at the train station. Then
picked up by Bill W at nurse's house (5 days after leaving). Day 1 of 3-day
dry out period with Bill W.
June 15 Saturday: day 2 of 3-day dry out period with Bill W.
June 16 Sunday: day 3 of 3-day dry out period with Bill W.
June 17 Monday: day of the surgery - Bill W gives Dr Bob a beer and a
goofball (3 days after Dr Bob's return)
Cheers
Arthur
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++++Message 5852. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group in Pennsylvania:
Philadelphia
From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/9/2009 9:58:00 AM
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Pennsylvania -- Philadelphia Feb 28 1940.
The founders included Jim B., Charlie B.,
Bayard B., Fitz M., George S., McCready H.
[at whose place it was held, 2209 Delancey St],
and Ed P.
Bayard B. was also the founder of AA on
Martha's Vineyard -- he's the only one I
ever met, shortly before his death in,
I think, 1961.
Jim B. and Fitz have stories in the Big Book.
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From: Cindy Miller
(cm53 at earthlink.net)
Pennsylvania: Philadelphia, 28 February 1940
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From: Shakey1aa@aol.com
Greetings from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,
where the 1st organizational meeting was
2/28/1940 and the 1st group was the
Philadelphia Mother Group formed by Jimmy
Burwell on March 6, 1940.
In "Memoirs of Jimmy" he states that "between
Feb and June 1940 Fitz," meaning J. H. Fitzhugh
Mayo "and myself started groups in Philadelphia,
Washington and Baltimore."
Shakey Mike Gwirtz
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
(see you at the National Archives Workshop
in California later this summer)
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++++Message 5853. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group: Minn., N.J., Utah,
S.C., Mich., Wisc., Akron
From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 12:55:00 PM
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Minnesota, New Jersey, Utah, South Carolina,
Michigan, Wisconsin, Akron group founding date
celebrated as July 4, 1935
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First AA group in Minnesota
From Jean F.
(jeanfid at gmail.com)
Patrick Cronin's dry date was November 11,
1940; he was visited by Chan Forman (a former
Minnesotan) and Bill Long from Chicago AA.
The Armistice Day blizzard kept them here in
Minneapolis long enough to help Cronin stay
sober and hear the message.
In April of 1941 Pat got two rooms (which
quickly spread to five rooms) and a telephone
at 200 East Franklin so as to organize a group.
Bill Wilson made his first visit here to
Minneapolis on October 26, 1941. Eventually
the club was moved to the Washburn House at
2218 1st Ave So, now lovingly known as the
Cronin house.
I'm sure there are others who will chime
in here~
Thanks!
Jean F in Minnesota
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From: Lynn Sawyer
(sawyer7952 at yahoo.com)
What a cool idea for A.A.'s 75th!!
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From: (jax760 at yahoo.com)
South Orange, New Jersey May 14, 1939
(AA Group #4)
I would respectfully point out that AA
Literature lists Akron Group #1 as July 4, 1935.
The discharge date of Bill Dotson from Akron
City Hospital. Akron Intrergroup has confirmed
to me that 7/4 is the day they celebrate their
anniversary.
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From: "Kimball ROWE"
(roweke at msn.com)
Utah - Dec 19, 1944 Salt Lake Group #1 formed,
Owen L (the man that carried the message to Utah)
was elected group secretary.
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From: (aadavidi at yahoo.com)
South Carolina: Spartanburg, September 15, 1944
per SC archives website -
http://www.area62.org/committees/archives/schist.htm
[From the moderator: but that document indicates
that the Spartanburg group stopped meeting after
a while and had to be restarted, so Columbia,
South Carolina, in late November 1944, may hold
the title of oldest continuing group in that state.
Both places and dates have therefore been inserted
in the list.]
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From: "Cherie' H."
(odaat5 at gmail.com)
Jan 4, 1940 - 1st AA group formed in Detroit,
Michigan.
Cherie' H
Warren, MI
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From: (cpknapp at yahoo.com)
California: San Francisco, November 21, 1939
Wisconsin: Milwaukee May 1, 1941
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++++Message 5854. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA groups: places where we
need more accurate dates
From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 1:33:00 PM
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See Message 3679
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/3679
From the list which Ruth Hock gave on November
14, 1940 of the AA groups which were in existence
by then, we know that these seven cities had AA
established by that date:
Arkansas: Little Rock
Connecticut: Greenwich
Maryland: Baltimore
New York: New York City
Vermont: Wallingford
Virginia: Richmond
Washington D.C.
Can someone give us more precise dates for the
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