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(hartsell at etex.net) Gerry Winkelman (khemex at comcast.net) "Doug B." (dougb at aahistory.com) (Baileygc23 at aol.com) SEE THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE: http://orthomolecular.org/library/jom/1999/articles/1999-v14n01-p049.shtml - - - - Original Message from: jennylaurie1@hotmail.com > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 > > Letter from Aldous Huxley to Dr Humphrey Osmond (Hotel Shoreham, 33W. 55th, NYC; 16 September 1960): > > "... Yesterday I lunched with Bill Wilson who spoke enthusiastically of his own experiences with leuko-adrenochrome and of the successful use of it on his ex-alcoholic neurotics. This really sounds like a break-through and I hope you are going ahead with clinical testing. Do you have any of the stuff to spare? If so, I'd be most grateful for a sample. It might relieve my tension-pains in the lower back, as it relieved Bill's aches and those of some of his friends. I wd like too to be able to send a few pills to Laura, who has some of Bill's symptoms - tension, then exhaustion, and then tremendous drive to overcome the
exhaustion. If you and Abram have really found something that will normalise, say, 50% or even more of neurotics, you will be among the great benefactors of humanity. But of course you will be attacked by all the Freudians. They will be fighting, not only for the Master, but for their livelihood. No more ten-year analyses, no more couch-addicts. What will become of the poor fellows? My address in Cambridge will be 100 Memorial Drive, Cambridge 38, Mass, Ever yours,
Aldous." > > (Quoted in "Letters of Aldous Huxley"; edited by Grover Smith; Chatto and Windus, London; 1969). IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6151. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Price of Big Book From: jenny andrews . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/15/2009 10:04:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Current price of Big Book from General Service Office, York, Great Britain: Hardback £8 sterling; paperback £7; pocket sized £5. All available online from: http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org.uk British Conference-approved literature still carries the Circle and Triangle logo.
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6152. . . . . . . . . . . . Huxley and Hoffer on Bill W. From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/16/2009 2:50:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII From: (Baileygc23 at aol.com) "Bill Wilson is the greatest social architect of the 20th century." -- Aldous Huxley The man who would co-found Alcoholics Anonymous was born to a hard-drinking household in rural Vermont. When he was ten, his parents split up and Bill was raised by his maternal grandparents. He served in the Army in WW I, and although not seeing combat, Bill had more than ample opportunities to drink. In the 1920's, Wilson achieved considerable success as an inside trader on Wall Street,
but a combination of drunkenness and the stock market crash drained what was left of his fortune and his capability to enjoy life. Hard knocks, religious experience, and a growing sense that by helping other alcoholics he could best
help himself led Bill to create one of the world's most famous introductions: "My name is Bill W., and I'm an alcoholic."
personal
problems endured, most notably depression. Abram Hoffer writes: "I met Bill in New York in 1960. Humphry Osmond and I introduced him to the concept of megavitamin therapy. Bill was very curious about it and began to take niacin, 3,000 mg daily. Within a few weeks fatigue
and depression which had plagued him for years were gone. He gave it to 30 of his close friends in AA. Of the thirty, 10 were free of anxiety, tension and depression in one month. Another 10 were well in two months. Bill then wrote "The Vitamin B 3 Therapy." and thousands of copies of this extraordinary pamphlet were distributed. Bill became unpopular with the members of the board of AA International. The medical members, who had been appointed by Bill, "knew" vitamin B 3 could not be therapeutic as Bill had found it to be. I found it very useful in treating patients who were both alcoholic and schizophrenic. --From Vitamin B3: Niacin and Its Amide, by A. Hoffer, M.D., Ph.D.; Wilson B: The vitamin B3 therapy: The first communication to AA's physicians (1967); A second communication to AA's physicians (1968). http://orthomolecularvitamincentre.com/disorders.php IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6153. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Wilson, Lois copyright Ellie van V., 1998 All rights reserved From: Ernest Kurtz . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/16/2009 2:58:00 PM
respectfully and gratefully suggest that you link to . . . silkworth.net/sitemap.html ?
recent changes and ongoing discussions -- available out there, please? If you are willing, please contact me off-list? As a multiply copyrighted author as this electronic age comes into being, I find things too confusing for this legal mere layperson.
kurtzern@umich.edu - - - - From Glenn C., the moderator The seven known used copies of Diary of Two Motorcycle Hobos, by Bill and Lois Wilson, in the version edited by Ellie van V. (Ottowa: Gratitude Press, 1998) which are currently for sale are selling for:
500.00, and 1,250.00 - - - - On Dec 13, 2009, at 11:06 PM, Jim M wrote: > This subject title is also known as "Diary of Two Motorcycle Hobos." > The Copyright holder is clearly stated in the subject line and in > the file I have on hand, however, I received a disturbing email from > the Director, Annah Perch, of the Stepping Stones Foundation, ready > to act on behalf of the Copyright holder. > > Does anyone here on AAHistoryLovers know how to get in touch with > the Copyright holder, Ellie van V.? I wish to open a direct line of > communication with Ellie van V. to talk with her about her title > mentioned above. > > I believe this title is an important part of pre AA history with a > glimpse into the lives of our would be cofounders of Alcoholics > Anonymous and Al-anon which can be viewed on this page: http://www.silkworth.net/freestuff.html > . Any information you can provide would be of great assistance. Your > comments on the above are also welcomed and will be of great help to > me in my making the right decission. > > If you wish, you can contact me directly by sending an email to: > > "Jim M" > (silkworthdotnet at yahoo.com) > > I thank you for your continued support for the service silkworth.net > provides. > > Yours in service, > Ever greatful, > Jim M,
> http://www.silkworth.net/ IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6154. . . . . . . . . . . . Holiday greetings: Grapevine, December, 1952 From: Lois Stevens . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/16/2009 4:24:00 PM
January
1st, 1953, some 120,000 members of AA will have seen their dreams of a dry holiday and their hopes of a sane New Year's come safely true. The first Christmas for AA was the depression year of 1935. There were three old
timers to mark it ... hardly a dozen newcomers to share it with them. In Akron,
Dr. Bob and Bill D. were going on their second six months. Four recruits had from four months to two months.. in New York, Bill W. had thirteen months since his last drink, seven months since his historic trip to Akron and the start of AA.
ceremony .... no exchange of presents. The Twelve Steps had not yet been formulated. The Big Book was only a vague stirring that would not even be in manuscript until three more Christmases had been achieved. But there was joy that this most dangerous of times for the alcoholic had arrived ... and twenty-four hours by twenty-four hours was being mastered.
Christmas, "that we had come this far. However, I am certain that there was still considerable fear and trembling ... not fear that this new way would not
work, but doubt and uncertainty that we would be able to hold on to it. Bill W. recalls only a quiet day in New York that Yule of 1935 where there were
very few involved. Five years later, there was a place in New York for an AA Christmas party ... the first AA clubhouse. And about the 24th Street Club there hangs a real Santa Claus story! Or rather, it is a Saint Nicholas story. Just one hundred years before, in 1840,
the building, that would later become the AA Club House, was erected at Number
334 1/2 West 24th Street ... the property of a family named Moore who were large
landowners in Manhattan Island's Chelsea section. And driving across the snow-covered lawn, Dr. Clement Clarke Moore began to compose (some say just as his sled runners touched what is now the meeting room of AA's first clubhouse!) his immortal gift to children of all ages ... " 'Twas the night before Christmas."
architect From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/18/2009 6:04:00 PM
by Tom White http://www.lewrockwell.com/white/white45.html Thomsen's bio includes a quotation from British writer Aldous Huxley, who was a
friend of Bill's. Huxley said that Bill was "the greatest social architect of the 20th century." [note 3] Bill's official biography [note 4] quotes Thomsen on this point. As far as I know, there is no other source for this comment of Huxley's, and so I do not know the context in which it was made.
Smith's adaptation of the Oxford Group's [note 5] spiritual principles to the salvaging of alcoholics. That was indeed an extraordinary contribution, but I tend to think, rather, that Huxley was referring to Bill's superb organization (always with Dr. Bob's concurrence while he was alive) of the governance of AA
Different Kind of Hero: The Story of Alcoholics Anonymous (2003).
New
York, 1984) page 368. 5. For much of the first four years of AA history, 1935-1939. the groups that
were to become AA were actually elements in Oxford Group chapters in Akron and
New York City. AA has always acknowledged that the spiritual principles of its
recovery program came from the Oxford Group, although with certain new verbal
formulations (e.g. the Twelve Steps), with a narrowing of focus to concentrate on the recovery of alcoholics (where the OG aimed at personal "change" at depth
for all people), and with the innovations in structure I discuss in this article.
++++Message 6156. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Liverpool AA in England From: jenny andrews . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/17/2009 3:56:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Try the Archivist at General Service Office, PO Box 1, 10 Toft Green, York YO1 7NJ. Britain's official magazine "Share" (the equivalent of "Grapevine") published two books to commemorate the 50th and 60th anniversaries of the fellowship in Britain - "The First Fifty Years" (out of print), and "Share and Share Alike" (price £2.95 from GSO); both contain references to AA's early days in Liverpool.
Liverpool AA? Our local history archivist is putting something together and doesn't have much. Can anybody help? Best wishes Des PS My personal email is puggreen2008@yahoo.co.uk (puggreen2008 at yahoo.co.uk) Thanks! IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6157. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Huxley/Wilson: what is leuko-adrenochrome? From: corafinch . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/16/2009 7:14:00 PM
Epinephrine, also known as adrenaline, is metabolized to adrenochrome and an unpigmented molecule called adrenolutin. Leuko-adrenochrome may be another name
for adrenolutin, but I think it is yet another molecule in the same pathway. Although adrenochrome has been used as a recreational drug, the high must not be too impressive as it has never been made illegal in the U.S. Leuko-adrenochrome, in any case, is a different molecule from adremochrome and
apparently without significant psychotropic effects. What Bill noticed when he took it may only have been placebo effect. It was certainly nothing like LSD. Hoffer thought that schizophrenic symptoms were caused by an inborn error of metabolism involving the metabolites of adrenaline. He also thought that LSD helped alcoholics by giving them a sort of homeopathic dose of schizophrenic thinking, so he was interested in how alcoholics were affected by drugs in the
family of adrenochrome. The quote about the greatest social architect has always intrigued me. It appears in "Pass It On" with no reference. Huxley was possibly the greatest dystopian of the 20th century, so it almost seems that calling Bill the "greatest social architect of the 20th century" would have to have been meant somewhat as a joke. If not a joke, wouldn't it have been a sort of an insult, coming from the author of "Brave New World"? As Huxley aged, however, he did become a bit of a utopian, so maybe he meant it in all sincerity.
Loved Drunks From: The Silkworth Team . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/17/2009 2:26:00 AM
the
new Silkworth book and he sent me 2 copies, one of which I gave to the archives
in Columbia, S.C. Area 62. I have updated the purchase page on my site offering
suggestions on where to get a copy of the book. The later of the four links on the page has reasonable prices for the Silkworth Book now out of print. I decided to leave the pages that Bill Pitman authorized me to publish on silkworth.net - updating the purchase page only. Silkworth: The Little Doctor who Loved Drunks can be found on many online book stores. On this page: http://silkworth.net/silkworth_bio/silkworth_bio.html check out the fourth link, DealOz. I believe they have a couple of the books at relatively low prices. I read the book and found it to be an excellant read, though there was one section of the book that was supposed to have been written
by Dr. Silkworth, but it was not his writing style and there were some descrepancies in the wording used. I don't have the book on hand at present, but I think it was a letter he was supposed to have written. After reading it, I was convinced it was not written by Dr. Silkworth. Dale Mitchel didn't really have a good reason for this when I emailed him about it. I believe Dale said he included it in the book because it was mixed in the material that Adelaide gave
him access to when he was writing the book. Yours in service, Ever grateful, Jim M, http://www.silkworth.net/ IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6159. . . . . . . . . . . . Diary of Two Motorcyle Hobos From: Vicky Callaway . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/16/2009 9:19:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Here are telephone and fax numbers (and an email address) that might help: I have a first edition first printing - 1998 Published by Gratitude Press Canada Ottawa, Ontario Canada K2B7C6.
fax (613)820-5176 E-Mail: ellie@igs.net
Maufactured in Canada Canadian Cataloguing in Publication Data copyright Ellie van V, 1998 I don't know if the email address or telephone nos would be helpful to anyone and I am not on ebay but someone told me this book was a collector's item and I am not interested in selling it. I bought it at a state convention in Missouri probably when it first came out. Blessings vicki IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6160. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Silkworth: The Little Doctor who Loved Drunks From: Chuck Parkhurst . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/18/2009 12:43:00 AM
recovery related literature and shirts are sold. Most metro areas have several. I already owned a copy but purchased one in the last several months that I gave as a gift. They had several copies at under $20 In Service with Gratitude, Chuck Parkhurst IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6161. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Huxley on Bill W. as social architect From: jenny andrews . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/19/2009 3:34:00 AM
site before - but where did he get it from? Laurie A. ___________________________________ From: An Unusual Instance of Governance by Tom White http://www.lewrockwell.com/white/white45.html Thomsen's bio includes a quotation from British writer Aldous Huxley, who was a
friend of Bill's. Huxley said that Bill was "the greatest social architect of the 20th century." [note 3] Bill's official biography [note 4] quotes Thomsen on this point. As far as I know, there is no other source for this comment of Huxley's, and so I do not know the context in which it was made.
Smith's adaptation of the Oxford Group's [note 5] spiritual principles to the salvaging of alcoholics. That was indeed an extraordinary contribution, but I tend to think, rather, that Huxley was referring to Bill's superb organization (always with Dr. Bob's concurrence while he was alive) of the governance of AA
Different Kind of Hero: The Story of Alcoholics Anonymous (2003).
New
York, 1984) page 368. 5. For much of the first four years of AA history, 1935-1939. the groups that
were to become AA were actually elements in Oxford Group chapters in Akron and
New York City. AA has always acknowledged that the spiritual principles of its
recovery program came from the Oxford Group, although with certain new verbal
formulations (e.g. the Twelve Steps), with a narrowing of focus to concentrate on the recovery of alcoholics (where the OG aimed at personal "change" at depth
for all people), and with the innovations in structure I discuss in this article.
++++Message 6162. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Paul M. from IL From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 12/19/2009 9:45:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Those wishing to learn more of Paul M. should read "It Works for Me" published in the Grapevine in September 2007 and reprinted in VOICES OF LONG-TERM SOBRIETY (AA Grapevine Inc. 2009), pp. 46-50. ___________________________ > To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com > From: jim_011591@hotmail.com > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:51:18 +0000 > Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: Paul M. from IL > > Paul M. was Gary B.'s sponsor (the man who Yüklə 11,49 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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