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Group, official registered in New York as Jackson Group #2, held its first

meeting on the first Sunday of September 1945. Where the meeting was held

has

been forgotten but the date was confirmed by a copy of the minutes of



business

meetings from 1950, 1951 and 1952 that I got from Bud C. whose late

brother-in-law had been group secretary in those years. Barb S. borrowed the

notebooks to read over, and lost them all in moving to Texas and then back

to

Jackson. Tom says that Bud S. also told him that Al C. had a coffee shop in



the

Otsego Hotel in the early 40's. One night each week, Al closed early so that

AA

could meet in the coffee shop.


Copyright© 2006 The Jackson Group

http://www.aa-semi.org/


Note 2
Waunakee Wisconsin – Local A.A. activity, but members attending meetings

in

Chicago.


After an exhaustive search, I found no groups listed in Waunakee, Wisconsin

prior to October 1, 1940, however there was indeed mention of AA activity in

Waunakee, during this period. Early correspondence reveals that Harry S., of

Waunakee, WI, may have been the first individual to contact GSO from this

city.

Harry's earliest letter dates November 20, 1939 and reads, "I thank you for



your

letter of the 14th I would be pleased to correspond with your Chicago

membership

and perhaps would go there to see more of it."


In a letter dating July 24, 1940, Harry writes:
"My position as Chief Chef for the Mendota State Hospital, Mendota,

Wisconsin,

(a suburb of Madison Wisconsin) brings me in close contact with all types of

alcoholics. A good many of these are more than anxious to stop drinking and

are

well worth saving, as a matter of fact, I have talked to a number of them



and

have outlined your procedure…I have had some correspondence with your Miss

Coultis of Chicago who has very kindly invited me to attend some of their

meetings there…I am eager to start a group in Madison and would so much

appreciate any information you might give me which would enable to do so."
There are few more letters from Harry in the file. Please note that letters

from


Harry are all filed with other group correspondence in the "Madison" folder.

(Asst. GSO Archivist Michelle M. correspondence with JB in late 2008)


These notes do cast doubt in my mind but that is only my conclusion I hope

more


will be revealed!
Lastly,for those who are interested I was able to fully document 34 groups

in 29


cities spread out over 14 states and the District of Columbia at the close

of

1940.


God Bless
John B.
--- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, Glenn Chesnut wrote:

>

> List of all the cities with A.A. groups as of



> Dec. 31, 1941. Very impressive growth, going

> from one or more established groups in 22 cities

> in November 1940 to three times that size in

> only one year: this list shows one or more

> established groups in 69 cities as of December

> 1941 (plus groups in two other cities handwritten

> into the list).

>

> Sent to us by A.A. archivist and historian



> Bruce C. from Muncie, Indiana.

>

> See bottom of page



> http://hindsfoot.org/archive3.html

>

> Which links to a copy of the list at



> http://hindsfoot.org/dec1941.pdf

>
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++++Message 6116. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Re-writing history in the movies

From: Arthur S . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/17/2009 7:51:00 AM


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Hi Al
In a July 1949 obituary and Grapevine memorial article paying tribute to Dr

Bob's wife Anne, Bill W wrote that she was "quite literally, the mother of

our first group, Akron #1 and in the full sense of the word she was one of

the founders of AA." Likewise, I think it quite fair and accurate to state

that Lois W was, "in the full sense of the word" also one of the founders of

AA. I just don't see how the AA Fellowship could have gotten off the ground

without both of these remarkable women (plus these days we do not give

non-alcoholics anywhere near the tribute they deserve for helping to get AA

started - particularly those in medicine and religion).
My biggest concern today - reinforced by the most recent books I'm aware of

written about Lois and Bill - is the number of historical inaccuracies

published based on what seems like shoddy research. There is a weakness

emerging in contemporary AA history writings that seems to center on failure

to corroborate facts via multiple sourcing, inadequate vetting in editing

and over-dependence on anecdotal sources - these are the kind of things that

will propagate situations of hearsay being viewed as history.
Cheers
Arthur
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++++Message 6117. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Re-writing history in the movies

From: Doug B. . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/15/2009 6:17:00 PM


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Have faith Al...it is based on the book by the

same author who wrote "My Name is Bill W" and

the book is based on hours of interviews with

Lois herself.


The book was great...I'm happy that Bill Borchert

got the movie made.


Doug Barrie

www.aahistory.com


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On the authors web site, the first sentence in

the second paragraph describes Lois Wilson

correctly as the co-founder of Al-Anon, not AA:
"The movie stars ... Wynona Ryder, as

Lois Wilson, THE CO-FOUNDER OF AL-ANON,

and ... Barry Pepper as ... Bill Wilson,

THE CO-FOUNDER OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS."


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From the authors web site:
11-11-09

PRODUCTION OF THE LOIS WILSON MOVIE NOW UNDERWAY


The Hallmark Hall of Fame movie, "When Love Is

Not Enough: The Lois Wilson Story," began

shooting in Toronto, Canada on November 9, 2009.

It is scheduled for completion by the middle of

December.
The movie stars the magnificent young actress,

Wynona Ryder, as "Lois Wilson," the co-founder

of Al-Anon, and the wonderful young actor,

Barry Pepper, as her husband, "Bill Wilson,"

the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous. The

distinguished director is John Kent Harrison

and the Executive Producers are Brent Shields

and Peter Duchow. The screenplay was written

by William G. Borchert and Camille Thomasson.
More than three years in the making, the movie

is based on the book, "The Lois Wilson Story:

When Love Is Not Enough," written by veteran

author William G. Borchert who was a close

personal friend of Lois Wilson for more than

15 years before her passing in 1988. Mr. Borchert

was nominated for an Emmy for writing the highly

acclaimed Hallmark film, "My Name Is Bill W."

which starred James Woods and James Garner and

was based on the lives of Bill Wilson and Dr.

Robert Smith and the founding of Alcoholics

Anonymous.


Mr. Borchert long felt the story of Al-Anon must

also be told and the heroic role Lois played in

its founding. So four years ago he wrote her life

story. Hallmark Hall of Fame then purchased the

film rights to his book and now the movie is

becoming a reality.


Wynona Ryder, who expressed great eagerness to

play the role of Lois, has been nominated for

two Academy Awards and has starred in many box

office hits. These include "Star Trek," "The

Informers," "Edward Scissorhands," "The Age of

Innocence," "Little Women," "The Crucible,"

"Being John Malkovich," "The Last Word," "Beetle

Juice," and many others.


Audiences have also gotten to know Wynona

through her many TV appearances on such shows

as Jay Leno, David Letterman, Conan O'Brien,

The Charley Rose Show and eight appearances on

Saturday Night Live.
Barry Pepper is a deeply sensitive actor as he

clearly showed in his major roles in "Saving

Private Ryan" and "The Green Mile." A six-time

nominee and winner of The Golden Globe Award,

Barry has starred in many other feature films

such as "We Were Soldiers" and "Flags of Our

Fathers." He has also starred in major

television movies such as "61" where he played

New York Yankees home run slugger Roger Maris

and in "Lonesome Dove:The Outlaw Years."


Like Wynona, audiences have seen him interviewed

on many TV shows such as The Late, Late Show

with Craig Ferguson and the Rosie O'Donnell

Show. The man guiding these marvelous actors

through the difficult task of portraying a

loving couple battling the scourge of alcoholism

is an outstanding director with many awards and

credits to his name. John Kent Harrison

understands this story from many points of

view and considers it a personal privilege to

be undertaking this challenge.
Last year John directed the moving and gripping

Hallmark Hall of Fame drama, "The courageous

Heart of Irene Sandler" which won accolades

from around the world. He also wrote and

directed the TV movie, "Pope John Paul II" and

the highly acclaimed movie, "The Sound and the

Silence" about Alexander Graham Bell.
"When Love Is Not Enough" is scheduled to be

shown on the CBS Television Network in late

April of 2010, just before Mothers Day. Stay

tuned for further news on this important event.


http://williamborchert.com/movie.html
Doug Barrie

www.aahistory.com


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++++Message 6118. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Re-writing history in the movies

From: Lee Carroll, CPA . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/16/2009 12:06:00 AM


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A I understand it, they are correctly crediting

Lois as the Co-founder of Al-Anon, not AA.

Please see press release:
Winona Ryder 'Enough' for Hallmark

Barry Pepper to co-star in 'Lois Wilson Story'

By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER
Winona Ryder and Barry Pepper have been cast

to star in the Hallmark Hall of Fame movie "When

Love Is Not Enough: The Lois Wilson Story."

Production starts this week in Toronto ; the

longform will air later this season on CBS.
Movie is based on the true story of Lois Wilson,

the co-founder of Al-Anon, and her relationship

with alcoholic husband Bill Wilson, one of the

founders of Alcoholics Anonymous.


The couple enjoyed an upscale lifestyle in the

1920s, but his drinking eventually led to their

downfall. Eventually, her husband became sober

-- but Lois Wilson still struggled with her own

issues surrounding his alcoholism.
She eventually helped start Al-Anon in 1951 to

assist people whose loved ones battle addiction.


E1 Entertainment is producing the movie with

Hallmark Hall of Fame Prods. John Morayniss,

Ira Pincus and Brent Shields are exec producing,

while John Kent Harrison is the director. Telepic

is based on the book by William Borchert, who

also wrote the script with Camille Thomasson.


Ryder's upcoming credits include "The Private

Lives of Pippa Lee," while Pepper was seen in

"61*" and "Flags of Our Fathers."
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From: Shakey1aa@aol.com (Shakey1aa at aol.com)
This press release

(http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news.aspx?id=20091112cbs03)

says that:
"This Drama, Based on the Biography by William

G. Borchert, Is About the Trials and Ultimate

Triumph of the Co-Founder of Al-Anon, Whose

Alcoholic Husband Co-Founded AA"


I checked online after seeing the previous

AAHL post. I don't think Bill B would let them

make that mistake.
YIS

Shakey Mike Gwirtz

Phila, PA USA
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From: "Laurence Holbrook"

(email at LaurenceHolbrook.com)


Excerpts from Variety, November 10, 2009
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118011136.html?categoryid=14&cs=1
Winona Ryder 'Enough' for Hallmark

Barry Pepper to co-star in 'Lois Wilson Story'

By MICHAEL SCHNEIDER
Movie is based on the true story of Lois Wilson,

the co-founder of Al-Anon, and her relationship

with alcoholic husband Bill Wilson, one of the

founders of Alcoholics Anonymous.


... She eventually helped start Al-Anon in

1951 to assist people whose loved ones battle

addiction ...
Telepic is based on the book by William Borchert,

who also wrote the script with Camille Thomasson.


A similar news release by CBS published by UPI

is here:
http://www.upi.com/Entertainment_News/TV/2009/11/12/Ryder-begins-work-on-TV-

movi\
e/UPI-31871258069245/ [29]
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From: Toto24522@aol.com (Toto24522 at aol.com)
http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/11/11/winona-ryder-to-play-lois-wilson/
"Winona Ryder and Barry Pepper will star in

Hallmark Hall of Fame movie When Love Is Not

Enough: The Lois Wilson Story, Variety reports.
The project starts shooting this week in Toronto

and will air later this season on CBS.


The story is about Lois Wilson, the co-founder

of Al-Anon, and her alcoholic husband Bill

Wilson, who founded Alcoholics Anonymous."
Also see the article on this in Variety.
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++++Message 6119. . . . . . . . . . . . A.A. and the U.S./Canadian

Thanksgiving celebrations

From: Richard H . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/21/2009 7:05:00 AM
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Do you have any references or stories relating

to AA & Thanksgiving?


Best regards,

Richard Humway

Area 73 (West Virginia) Archivist
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(Thanksgiving is a holiday which is celebrated

on the second Monday of October in Canada and

on the fourth Thursday of November in the United

States.)
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++++Message 6120. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Music in early AA

From: Lynn Sawyer . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/17/2009 10:43:00 PM


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Dear fellow HistoryLovers,
I have a need/request. I emailed to a friend

in Brazil about "music in A.A.," and he speaks

Portuguese as his 1st language, and cannot

understand the words of the songs, as they are

singing too fast!! Are the words published

somewhere, that I could connect him with?

I'd appreciate whatever you could do. Thanks

for bein' there!! :-)


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From G.C. the moderator:
Lynn is asking about Message 6101

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/6101


which gave a YouTube version of a song they called "I'm an Alcoholic"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR_lrsnov5Y


They added their own chorus to the song:
"I know everything there is

Folks all say that I'm a whiz

I'm an alcoholic."
But otherwise it is just an old traditional

folksong from the English-speaking world called

"I was Born About Ten Thousand Years Ago."
The folk song index at

http://www.ibiblio.org/folkindex/i03.htm

gives thirty different folk versions of the

song, collected by John and Alan Lomax, Carl

Sandburg, etc.
There are all sorts of different versions:
African-American

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN-C7avRiMI


Tommy Makem's Irish version from County Mayo

(which Fiona Dodd insists is the correct version)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IJ0Zkl0FPk
And even a pop version by the late great

Elvis Presley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNfCAzY1U4I
You can get the words at various places online

(remembering that since it is a folk song,

there are a number of different versions --

none of the ones online, for example, exactly

match the version I heard in Kentucky as a

child):
http://maxhunter.missouristate.edu/songinformation.aspx?ID=262


http://lyricsplayground.com/alpha/songs/i/iwasborntenthousandyearsago.shtml
http://www.whitetreeaz.com/yfof/tenthou.htm
http://www.raypfob.com/iwasbornabout.htm
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++++Message 6121. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: A.A. and the U.S./Canadian

Thanksgiving celebrations

From: James Blair . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/21/2009 11:20:00 PM
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Do you have any referencesor stories relating

to AA & Thanksgiving?


The November 1949 issue of the AA Grapevine was

dedicated to AA's 12 Traditions and a suggestion

was put forward that Thanksgiving week be

dedicated to meetings and meditation on the

Traditions.
It also noted that GSO would send out a letter

covering specifics to all group secretaries and

that if the groups approved, special materials

would be prepared and sent out.


The November 1950 and 1951 issues celebrated

Thanksgiving as Traditions week and then it

was dropped.
Jim
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++++Message 6122. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: A.A. and the U.S./Canadian

Thanksgiving celebrations

From: Charlie Bishop, Jr. . . . . . . . . . . . . 11/21/2009 10:33:00 PM
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In response to the query on the origin of

November as "Gratitude Month," the information

below is transcribed from Box 459 Vol. 46,

No. 5/ October - November 2000


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Gratitude Month Our Chance to Say `Thank You!'
"The idea is in the air that A.A. might adopt Thanksgiving week as a time

for


meetings and meditation on the Traditions," A.A. co-founder Bill W. wrote in

the


November 1949 issue of the Grapevine (The Language of the Heart, p. 95)

shortly


after publication of the Twelve Traditions. In fact, the idea had already

taken


hold earlier in the decade when, each fall, the General Service Board hosted

small Gratitude Dinners - precursors of the larger, more elaborate Gratitude

Luncheons that would be held during the '60s as an initiative of the

trustees'

Public Information Committee.
The first official recognition of an A.A. Gratitude Week, specifically

designed


to coincide with Thanksgiving week in the U.S. (Canada celebrates in

October),

occurred in 1956, when the Sixth General Service Conference approved the

motion,


stipulating that "this action be noted in the annual pre-Thanksgiving

appeals to

the groups for funds to help support A.A.'s worldwide services." Three years

later, Bill urged in a letter, "Gratitude should go forward, rather than

backward... if you carry the message to still others, you will be making the

best possible repayment for the help given to you." (As Bill Sees It, p.

29).
The motivation behind A.A.'s Gratitude Lunches was threefold: to express

personal gratefulness for the gift of sobriety; to carry the message of A.A.

to

other alcoholics; and to express appreciation to our professional friends



for

their numerous articles, books and radio and TV interviews relating to A.A.

in

the year just past. It was hoped, in the words of a General Service Office



memo

circulated at the time, that the luncheons would "advance A.A.'s public

relations by bringing editors, publishers, writers and broadcasters in

personal


contact with sources of reliable information on the movement."
Held without fail in November at New York City's Roosevelt Hotel, the

luncheons

were always well-attended. A typical list of invitees to the 1965 luncheon

included representatives of The New York Times, McCall's Magazine, Medical

World News and The Christian Science Monitor. Bill W. always addressed the

gatherings, as did the late "Dr. Jack" Norris, then serving as A.A.'s Class

A

(nonalcoholic) trustee chairman. A discussion period followed the



proceedings,

an ample selection of A.A. literature was available for the taking, and in

1965

Bill sent an autographed copy of A.A. Comes of Age to every guest.


The luncheons were discontinued in 1968, but the concept of gratitude

persisted

and expanded in scope. For decades now, A.A.s in the U.S. have set aside all

of

November as Gratitude Month - marking the occasion with special



contributions to

G.S.O. In the spirit of the Seventh Tradition A.A. is self-supporting

through

its members' contributions, and frequently turns away money from



well-meaning

outside contributors. This means that the active input of every A.A. is

vital to

the life of the Fellowship.


Grateful for the sobriety they've been given and eager to pass it on, A.A.s

are


busier than ever in Twelfth Stepping and service. They are reaching out in

greater numbers to Loners, people with special needs, members of minority

groups

and previously unreached alcoholics. It is clear from their sharing that an



overwhelming number of A.A.s - along with many of our professional friends -

find their own special ways to say thank you during Gratitude Month and,

indeed,

all year long. Writes one member: "Enclosed is a check for Gratitude Month,



because I want A.A. to be there for all those who need it, just as I did."

From


another: "The enclosed check is from my own pocket, to help groups in

correctional facilities like mine. Some of us are struggling to turn our

lives

around. We begin the process in here ourselves, and by reaching out." And a



nonalcoholic missionary wrote from India, "It is a matter of great

encouragement

and satisfaction that your A.A. has been a rich resource of guidance, help

and


light for a number of organizations dealing with problems related to

alcohol...."


Besides observing Gratitude Month, many a member uses the A.A. Birthday Plan

"to


give back what's been given to me," as one wrote. And from another fateful

A.A.:


"I want to say thanks today for my life and my family's - or all of us

alcoholics in recovery," he wrote. "Enclosed is an anniversary check,

because I

want the hand of A.A. to be there for all who need it." Like him, many


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