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Muddenahalli the site of Vishwamitra's ashram?

Madhusudan claimed in his talk on October 20, 2015, that Muddenahalli is the site of Vishwamitra's ashram as well as the place where Rama killed the demoness Tataka:



You may not believe it but this place is a very meritorious place. It is a land of penance. All this area was there in the Vishwamitra ashram in Threta Yuga. Rama and Lakshmana fought Tataka and killed many demons here.

http://www.bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/OCTOBER-2015-MUDDENAHALLI-DISCOURSE-ENGLISH
This is neither true nor accurate. Vishvamitra's ashram was located in North India. Known as Siddhashrama, it was located beside the Ganga near the modern town of Baksara (Buxar) in Bihar. The description of the route to the ashram was recorded in the Valmiki Ramayana. Rama, Lakshmana and Vishwamitra spent the night at Kamasram, located at the confluence of the Ganga and Sarayu. The following morning they crossed the Ganga and entered Tataka's region, the kingdoms of Malada and Karosa - which are located in North India.
More importantly, Sri Sathya Sai Baba also confirmed this in Ram Katha Rasavahini part 1. In the chapter "The Call and the First Victory", Swami describes how after staying at the ashram where Shiva destroyed Manmatha (Kama) Rama, Lakshmana and Vishwamitra crossed the Ganga and found themselves in Tataka's forest, located in the kingdoms of Malada and Karosa. Vishwamitra told them that

"The jungle in which that vile ogress lives is at a distance of a yojana (9 miles) and a half from here".

Ramkatha Rasavahini Part 1, p.103, http://www.srisathyasai.org.in/Pdf/Ramakatha_RasaVahini-I.pdf
So this is approximately 15.3km from the Ganga. The distance between Baksara and Muddenahalli however, is approximately 1882 kilometres, according to http://www.distancebetweencities.co.in. Muddenahalli is therefore nowhere near Tataka's forest.
After killing Tataka, Sri Sathya Sai Baba describes how Rama, Lakshmana and Vishwamitra resumed their journey:

"Viswamitra then proposed to resume the journey and the three of them started footing their way along. A little distance later, they entered a region of high-peaked hills. Their eyes fell on a charming garden, the fragrance of which welcomed them and refreshed their bodies and minds. The brothers were curious to know who owned that lovely spot. They asked the Sage to enlighten them. Viswamitra replied, “Son, this is the holy area which the gods choose when they come down on earth to practise austerity for the success of their desires. The great Kasyapa did penance here and won his goal. The place confers victory on all holy efforts. So it is named, Siddhasram, the Hermitage of Achievement! I have myself taken residence here, with the intention of cultivating Dedication and Surrender. This hermitage is the target of attack for demons who intercept and befoul every holy rite done here".

Ramakatha Rasavahini Part 1, pp. 113-114, http://www.srisathyasai.org.in/Pdf/Ramakatha_RasaVahini-I.pdf
According to Sri Sathya Sai Baba, Vishwamitra's ashram was located in North India, not far from the banks of the Ganga. Madhusudan's claim that Muddenahalli is the site of Vishwamitra's ashram is therefore entirely baseless. The distinction is very clear here - we can either believe Swami, or we can believe Madhusudan.
Swami did however say the following about Puttaparthi:
"Maharshi Valmiki had meditated in Puttaparthi. There were a lot of ant hills in Puttaparthi due to the presence of which it gained the name Puttaparthi. In the place where the mandir stood, there was a forest full of tulasi. Swami revealed that Lord Narayana as a rishi had meditated there. Referring to Himself, He said that the same rishi had reincarnated now".

Sri Sathya Sai Anandadayi, pp.46-47).
On October 31, 2015, Madhusudan again attempted to reiterate his claim:

In olden days Muddenahalli was the place where Sage Vishwamitra’s ashram was. Even Nandigrama was an ashrama. That is why finally Bharata also stayed in Nandigrama. The first ashram to be established here belonged to Vishwamitra and he made Rama install the first Shivalinga here. Therefore, this place is a very meritorious, sacred and pure. I knew all this when I came here the first time. That’s why I called this the land of penance, ‘Tapobhoomi’.

Talk by Madhusudan Naidu, 31 October, 2015, http://saivrinda.org/updates/divine-discourse-on-october-31-2015-summary/
Madhusudan claims to be in contact with the subtle body of Sri Sathya Sai Baba. Why then do his claims contradict what Sri Sathya Sai Baba said while He was alive?

End of the Kali Yuga?


Madhusudan then claims that the Kali Yuga ended on October 23, 2015 during the Athi Rudra Maha Yagna:

Arthi (sic) Rudra Maha Yagna is a scared (sic - sacred) time. It is a time of transition. Kali Yuga is ending and Sathya Yuga is beginning. It is not Sathya Yuga it is PREMA Yuga.

http://www.bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/OCTOBER-2015-MUDDENAHALLI-DISCOURSE-ENGLISH
However it has been well documented that Sri Sathya Sai Baba told Dr John Hislop that the Kali Yuga lasts for 11,000 years and still has thousands of years to go:

In Dwapara Yuga, before Kali Yuga, 5680 years back, milk came into favour. Eleven thousand years is the full length of the Kali Yuga…. There are four Yugas. The sequence is circular, and when the last is finished, the whole cycle starts all over again. Kali Yuga still has 5,320 years before ending.

CWBSSSB p.22, http://media.radiosai.org/journals/Vol_03/04APR01/cws.htm

Prema Sai to be based in Muddenahalli?

In order to make Muddenahalli seem even more special, Madhusudan then claims that Prema Sai will base His mission out of Muddenahalli:



Here lodging facilities are not enough. I am going to build more and more houses to accommodate devotees. Also I will create all the facilities for them. Next year all kinds of canteens will start here. Apart from canteens a hospital will also be start. For people staying here all types of facilities will be available for them. We can go and see a big hall is being built. To think that this hall is being built for Swami is not the complete truth. In the future Prema Sai is going to come and give darshan in that hall.

http://www.bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/OCTOBER-2015-MUDDENAHALLI-DISCOURSE-ENGLISH
Madhusudan then admits to using fear to motivate people into doing things for him.

Narasimhamurthy was asking, "Swami, do we need such a big hall?" "If you were to give darshan a hall is not required. If I am to give darshan a big hall is required." You have to do it for my sake. I am giving them a lot of work. Only when I give a lot of work they think of me. When they think the task is impossible then they think of God. Small projects they can do without thinking of me. When I give them big projects naturally they will come to me, pray to me say, "Swami you have to help us and grant us strength." Among all devotees this kind of fear leads to devotion. That is fear and devotion.

http://www.bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/OCTOBER-2015-MUDDENAHALLI-DISCOURSE-ENGLISH
What did Sri Sathya Sai Baba say about fear and love?

Love knows no fear. Love shuns falsehood. Fear drags the human into falsehood, injustice and wrong. Love does not crave for praise. That is its strength. Only those who have no love in them itch for reward and reputation. The reward for love is love itself.

SSS 9.16: July 29, 1969, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume09/sss09-16.pdf

But the love of the Divine is devoid of any trace of self-interest. It is love for the sake of love alone. This is called bhakti (devotion). One characteristic of this love is to give and not to receive. Secondly, love knows no fear. Thirdly, it is only for love’s sake and not for selfish motive.

SSS 27.1: 1 January 1994, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume27/sss27-01.pdf
Yet Madhusudan claims that Sri Sathya Sai Baba now uses fear to get devotion? Swami further says:

The Upanishads say that the human is a spark of Divine Love, encased in five sheaths… But the tangles of fear, greed, egoism and aggrandisement do not allow the spark to grow and illumine the sheaths as well as the world around.

SSS 10.31: October 29, 1970, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume10/sss10-31.pdf
So according to Sri Sathya Sai Baba, fear and love are mutually exclusive. If Madhusudan Naidu is really in communication with the subtle body of Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why would the words of that subtle body contradict Sri Sathya Sai Baba on the very heart of His mission - Love?

When I went saw the hall, a few days back, even I could not believe that it could happen. Now, I have gained complete faith that because our students are working it will be complete.

http://www.bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/OCTOBER-2015-MUDDENAHALLI-DISCOURSE-ENGLISH
Swami used to say "Sai Sankalpa is Vajrasankalpa. What I will must happen". Swami said Himself that He didn't have doubts. Why then if Sathya Sai Baba had willed this hall to be finished in time, would He say that He doubted it would be finished and then that after seeing it He had gained complete faith that it would be finished? The simple fact is that this isn't Sathya Sai Baba, it is simply someone imitating Him.
Madhusudan then claims that Prema Sai will live in Muddenahalli:

Sathya Sai Avatar will continue to be here for some years. After some time I will come back as Prema Sai. I will stay in this ashram and even teach Truth.

http://www.bhajanmusic.info/sukshma-baba-information/OCTOBER-2015-MUDDENAHALLI-DISCOURSE-ENGLISH
He will even teach Truth. Wow. That would be a change. Isn't teaching the Truth supposed to be what he is doing now, considering that he started this rather mistake riddled talk by claiming "Aham Sathya Bodhaka" - "I am the Teacher of Truth"? We know he was only reusing a quote from one of Swami's discourses in imitation of Sri Sathya Sai Baba when he said that. But we still have to ask about his claim to now start teaching the Truth - Is this perhaps a slip of the tongue? Is Madhsusudan admitting that he doesn't currently speak the Truth? If he is saying that in the future he will "even teach Truth", like it's something wonderful and different to what he is doing now, doesn't that imply that he's admitting to not currently speaking the truth? Let's hope that this is a new year's resolution for him, or maybe in his case, a new yuga's resolution, and that we will now start to see him speaking the Truth about what he is doing. In any case, I won't hold my breath.
Even before the rains come a farmer will prepare the land. In the same way I am preparing the place. Not only am I getting the place ready I am tilling your hearts. I am waiting to remove self-interest and selfishness from your hearts and sow the seeds of love. When the rain comes then it will be useful. Taking a part in this huge task you will also find fulfillment in your lives. Earlier that was the declaration. Today this is the declaration.




SUMMARY

1. V Kumar claims that there were no active youth in his centre or region when he arrived.
2. A member of the centre's youth group has confirmed that there were active youth, both in the centre and in the region, including a youth who was centre chairperson of the Melbourne centre at the time.
3. V Kumar says that the youth grew from 15 to 350 in 18 months. This is correct, however to clarify, this was youth in the region, not youth in the centre he attended.
4. Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He is omnipresent and defines this as being everywhere at the same time, all the time.
5. However V Kumar attempts to attribute this growth in youth numbers to the subtle body, saying that Swami was not there in Australia.
6. Kumar then says that Swami permitted all the youth to come to Puttaparthi. To clarify, there were approximately 138 youth on that trip, not the 350 Kumar had previously spoken about
7. Kumar then claims that the youth in Australia have grown from 350 to 1000 and it keeps growing.
8. This is a gross exaggeration, there has never been 1000 youth in the whole of Australia, let alone in Victoria.
9. Madhusudan told him that there would be 300 youth at the retreat in Australia in December 2014, however Kumar confirmed in a talk in January that there were only 300 -350 people in total on the last day of the retreat, not 300 youth. This is again an exaggeration.
10. Sri Sathya Sai Baba asked us to speak the truth without exaggerating.
QUESTIONS

1. Sri Sathya Sai Baba was very particular that we speak the truth without exaggerating. Why does 'Sukshma Baba' then allow exaggeration from those speaking in his presence?
2. If Madhusudan Naidu is communicating with Sri Sathya Sai Baba, why is it that he predicted 300 youth would attend the retreat when in there were only a maximum of 300 - 350 people (including adults) in total by the last day of the retreat?





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