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Misrepresentation of people's words

In order to support their claims, the Muddenahalli group are misrepresenting people and information to create the perception of legitimacy.
For example, they are attempting to use a discussion that Uncle Jega Jagadeesan had with Swami in order to justify their activities. Muddenahalli supporters, including through the Sai Uvacha website, are using a quote from Jega's discussion with Swami about mediums in order to justify Muddenahalli’s claims:

Bhagavan Baba Himself has on many occasions urged devotees not to be taken up by mediums and others. However, after my experiences and research, I decided to ask Him about it. On one occasion when I had the opportunity I raised this subject and made specific reference to the experiences I had undergone and He replied: ‘Yes! These are true – but the reason why Swami discourages is because for every truth there are a hundred false!’.

J. Jagadeesan, Journey To God Part III, p.152 or

https://saiuvacha.wordpress.com/tag/sri-sathya-sai-baba/

However, this partial narration of the conversation gives a false impression that Jega was asking whether Swami used mediums. Jega gives a more complete description of the conversation in his book, Journey to God part 4 - The Fourth Dimension, and records that he was actually asking Swami if two Malaysian mediums who were manifesting Devi and Murugan were legitimate:

"I have asked Swami about the "Muruga Phenomenon" at the time he blessed the book. The conversation went something like this:

Jega: Bhagavan I know you have talked against this whole phenomenon of trance. But in this case, in the case of this uncle (and I mentioned his name - and also that of a young girl who at that time was manifesting an incredibly powerful trance phenomenon of Shakti, "Divine Mother" - but that is another story and I may refer to it later), I cannot believe these are false! Please Bhagavan (I pleaded) tell me what is true!

Baba: (Smiling gently and sensing the earnestness of my query replied) “Yes! This is true. But do you know why Swami discourages? For every true there are a hundred false!”

Jega Jagadeesan, Journey to God, part 4 - The Fourth Dimension, p.7
Thus the quote used, either intentionally or unintentionally, gives the impression that Swami confirmed that He does sometimes speak through people, which is not the case.
Furthermore, to give the appearance of greater support for Muddenahalli's claims, quotes and video footage of talks by Jega and fellow long-term devotee, Dr P V Shankar, are featured on the Muddenahalli website, Sai Uvacha. Jega has confirmed that he does not believe the claims that Swami is communicating with Madhusudan Naidu via a 'light body'. Jega has also confirmed that he has never been contacted or asked for permission to use his footage or quotes on the website, making this is an unethical use of his material by Muddenahalli followers.

SUMMARY 1. Muddenahalli supporters have quoted from Jega Jagadeesan's discussion with Sri Sathya Sai Baba about mediums in order to justify Madhusudan's claim that he communicates with Baba. 2. Jega was actually asking Swami if two Malaysian mediums who were manifesting Devi and Murugan were legitimate, not whether Swami was manifesting through the mediums.

Exaggerated claims and misinformation

Former student V Kumar is now one of the members of Madhusudan Naidu’s entourage, travelling the world and speaking about Sukshma Baba.

For a time, V Kumar lived in Australia and he was the National Youth Coordinator for Australia during 2005 – 2006. During this time he lived in Melbourne, Victoria. In a talk he gave in the USA on June 20 2015 Kumar claimed that there were no active youth in any of the centres in his region of Victoria at the time he arrived.

I asked the chairperson, "Sir, I don't see any youth here. Is something wrong, or are they on a service project? Or have they gone somewhere else?" The chairperson said, "We haven't seen them for a long time." I said, "Really, then what about the other centres?" He said, "It is the same everywhere." I asked him for a list of all the youth who were registered in the centre. He gave me the list and said they were all passive. Nobody was active.

V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20, 2015
This interaction took place at Nunawading Sai Centre, which did actually have active Sai youth although attendance at regional youth activities at the time was moderate. In 2000 the chairperson of the Melbourne Sai Centre was a youth and there were also many active youth in that centre. Kumar’s claim that there were no active youth is therefore not accurate.
Kumar then claimed that in the first 18 months of his stay the youth numbers grew to 350:

His love touched them, and 15 became 350 in a matter of 1½ years. 350!

V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20, 2015
To clarify this statement, the figure of 350 Kumar is quoting is the total number of youth in the region, not at the Nunawading centre he attended.
Sri Sathya Sai Baba said that He is omnipresent:

Hislop: Swami says that God is omnipresent. What meaning does Swami give to the word, 'omnipresent'?

Sai: Omnipresent means everywhere at the same time, all the time.

CWBSSSB p.49, http://media.radiosai.org/journals/Vol_03/10OCT01/conversation.htm
However, Kumar attempts to attribute the growth in youth numbers to Sukshma Baba, the subtle form, rather than Sri Sathya Sai Baba’s omnipresence:

Swami wasn't there in Australia in the physical form — that was His Subtle Form. Yet, He touched the youth, spoke to them, encouraged them, and inspired them.

V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20, 2015
In 2006 Kumar took the Australian Youth contingent to Prashanti Nilayam:

In 2006, Swami permitted all the youth to come to Puttaparthi. Even before they landed, Swami started asking Me, "Where are they? When are they coming?" The moment Swami came out, He said, "Have they come? I would like to talk to them." He poured so much love on them, it's unbelievable. He made them sing in Prasanthi Nilayam. He made them sit along with the University boys there, with the Sai students. He said, "I have no difference between the Sai students and the youth. Both are one!" Never in the history of Prasanthi Nilayam had this happened!

V Kumar, Encinitas California, June 20, 2015
Swami did give a lot of attention to the youth and He did say that there was no difference between the Sai students and the Australian youth. This is indeed unprecedented.
Kumar claims that all the youth came to Puttaparthi, however to clarify this, there were only 138 youth there, not the 350 he had previously spoken about. (See the record of the Australian Sai youth interview: http://www.saiaustralia.org.au/youth/sya-interview-2006.pdf).
Kumar then claims:

Today, that 350 is more than 1,000, and it keeps growing.

This is not accurate. There are not today and have never been 1000 Sai youth in the whole of Australia, let alone the state of Victoria. This is a gross exaggeration.

Kumar also claims that:

Recently, when Swami was in Australia in His Subtle Form, He asked me, "How many youth will come?" I said, "Swami, 15 or 20." Swami smiled and said, "You're mad! You will have more than 300!"

There were approximately 300 – 350 attendees in total at the gathering in Australia, not 300 youth. This is again a gross exaggeration. This figure was confirmed in V Kumar’s talk on January 4 2015 in Muddenahalli:

There was a large crowd which expanded to about 300-350 people by the last day.

Email from Gerald Dominick (Sai Surya) 04/01/15
There is an element of exaggeration to many of the claims that Kumar has made during this talk. Did Swami condone this kind of exaggeration?

What you have heard and seen must be spoken out, without exaggeration or abridgement; that is sathya or truth speaking.

SSS 5.22: March 29, 1965, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume05/sss05-22.pdf

Be sincere; talk only about your genuine experience; do not distort, exaggerate or falsify that experience.

SSS 4.40: November 26, 1964, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume04/sss04-40.pdf

So, see that no trace of falsehood contaminates your transactions in these organisations. Truth is My nature, My Mission, My Message. Organisations bearing My Name have to be strictly adhering to Truth.

SSS 7.46: December 20, 1967, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume07/sss07-46.pdf

Understand what has been conveyed to you and explain to your fellow devotees. Devotion has to be cultivated in a silent and sincere manner. Do not spoil your lives by resorting to untruthful ways. Sathyam bruyath (speak the truth). Truth is God. Hence, lead a truthful life and ultimately merge in truth.

SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf

Speak so that your language is as sweet as your feelings are. Make the words true and pleasing. (Sathyam brooyaath; priyam brooyaath). But, for the sake of pleasing another, do not speak falsehood or exaggerate.

SSS 4.21: July 29, 1964, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume04/sss04-21.pdf

Do not do bad acts in the name of God. If you are unable to do good, at least keep quiet and stay out. There is no need for you to make all kinds of wild promises…

Swami spoke of His own example in this regard as well:

I have never deceived or let down anybody; nor will I ever do so. Untruth will not be uttered by Me. My wish is that no such undesirable act should be perpetrated on any of the genuine devotees.

SSS 35.11: July 22, 2002, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume35/sss35-11.pdf
Madhusudan says that those who believe in him follow their hearts, those who do not believe are caught up in their minds, yet Swami said:

Those who speak from the heart speak the truth; others, whose speech does not come from the heart, speak untruth to suit the occasion.

SSS 31.44: November 24, 1998, http://www.sssbpt.info/ssspeaks/volume31/sss31-44.pdf