Aa history Lovers 2009 moderators Nancy Olson and Glenn F. Chesnut page
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> > >I have seen a letter or comment attributed > >to Bill Wilson regarding abusive and vulgar > >lanquage not being appropriate at meetings. > > > >Clues where to look? IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5478. . . . . . . . . . . . Re:Other 12 step groups'' use of the 12 steps and 12 traditions From: Mark . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/9/2009 10:36:00 AM
offering of permission to reprint AA Conference Approved literature is that the Trustees and appointed directors who are responsible for the organization we know as the AAWS. The AAWS makes the decisions, on a case by case basis, as to the use of or reprinting of AA Conference Approved literature. I could be wrong, but that is what I have deduced from the published minutes of the AAWS. I quote from a portion of the August 2008 AAWS minutes .... "Reprint Requests - Since the April-May 2008 General Service Conference, the A.A.W.S. Board has granted permission/did not object to 36 requests to reprint from A.A. literature, and denied permission (including lack of authority to grant permission) to 28 requests." Mark IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5479. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Transcribing oral interviews. From: secondles . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/8/2009 5:06:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I'm using Naturally Speaking to transcribe some interviews I had during my research trip to Vermont. You will be surprised (I think) as to how easily it works, and its accuracy. One interesting part is that you can intersperse using your keyboard as often as you like. Keyboard editing is easy or using commands after you get aquainted with many of those. Speaking clearly is the clue when you first set it up.
(email at LaurenceHolbrook.com) Great tip - thanks - on my way to get a copy - By the way, a lot of cell phones will store voice record notes/memos - Instead of 'one button' for email or contacts, I set one button to record - Push the button and I can make notes when I'm driving if I see something interesting or think of something needing attention - Dragon Naturally Speaking ought to be able to transcribe those notes as well - Larry Holbrook Email@LaurenceHolbrook.com (410) 802-3099 - - - - In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "charley.bill" > > This is especially for Glenn, and anyone else > burdened by lots of interviews to transcribe. > > I went to the doctor recently and after his > exam, he pulled out a microphone and dictated > his report into the machine, gave me a copy > and one for my primary care doc.. He was > using Dragon Naturally Speaking 9.5 and it > only made one error! > > I ran down to Fry's and bought one of the > Professional edition Dragons and started > reading up on what it can do. I have been > back to Fry's to get a small Sony recording > device. > > I think I am now set up to learn how to record > interviews, or transfer tapes to hard disk, > and print the transcript, to have this Dragon > transcribe my entire backlog. > > It says it can do it. I wonder if any one has > any ideas for setting this work up, whether > I will need any more equipment, etc. I would > appreciate your help and will keep you posted > on my progress. >
From: LS31101@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/8/2009 4:12:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The GSR preamble appeared in Box 459 Vol. 35 no.4 Aug/Sept 1989. I don't know if this was the "first" appearance. Gary S. Alt Registrar, Area 67 - - - - In a message dated 1/8/2009 1:42:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, shane.pena@verizon.net writes: Does anyone know the origin of the GSR preamble which is read at monthly District Meetings here in Southern California??D I would appreciate any info you may have. Thanks.
Archivist, Area 05 IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5481. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: SoCal GSR Preamble From: Jocelyn . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/10/2009 5:05:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Would one of you please post a copy of this preamble? I am not (to my knowledge) familiar with it.
They do not go back that far. Jocelyn - - - - On Thu, 1/8/09, LS31101@aol.com From: LS31101@aol.com Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: SoCal GSR Preamble To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 9:12 PM The GSR preamble appeared in Box 459 Vol. 35 no.4 Aug/Sept 1989. I don't know if this was the "first" appearance. Gary S. Alt Registrar, Area 67 - - - - In a message dated 1/8/2009 1:42:28 P.M. Central Standard Time, shane.pena@verizon. net writes: Does anyone know the origin of the GSR preamble which is read at monthly District Meetings here in Southern California?? D I would appreciate any info you may have. Thanks.
Archivist, Area 05 IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5482. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Florence R. and Rollie H. From: Michael F. Margetis . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/10/2009 11:54:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Karl, Rollie was already on "Find A Grave", I added a photo that is "pending approval" from the website. Hopefully that will be viewable soon.
photo, so that should be viewable now. Remember when looking up Florence use Kalhoun as her last name, not Rankin. - Mike Margetis Brunswick, Maryland --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "Karl Kleen" wrote:
> > Would some member of the group who knows how to > do these things, consider adding Memorials for > Florence Rankin and Rollie Hemsley to the FIND A > GRAVE website? > > http://www.findagrave.com/index.html > > You could include photos of their gravestones > in their Memorials. That way we could all make > a (virtual) visit to their Memorials and access > any photos posted thereon. (Someone else might > have other photos that they could add?) > > Several persons of interest already do have > Find A Grave Memorials. > > Karl K. > > - - - - > > From the moderator: for example, Bill Wilson > and Lois Wilson, where Doug B. posted some > photos. > > - - - - > > In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, > "Michael F. Margetis" mfmargetis@ wrote: > >
> > FLORENCE RANKIN'S GRAVE: > > In the Spring 2007 issue of "Markings" is an > > article about the Washington (DC) Intergroup > > (WAIA) locating Florence Rankin's grave. > > > > It's a touching story about finding her burial > > site in a rundown section of the cemetery > > (George Washington Cemetery, Adelphi, Maryland) > > and raising funds, privately, to purchase a > > headstone. Apparently there was no headstone, > > just a marker. > >
> > Bob W. and the WAIA archives committee are > > doing a fantastic job! > > > > ROLLIE HEMSLEY'S GRAVE: > > Not long ago I learned, from reading old > > baseball player bios, that Rollie Hemsley of > > Cleveland Indians catcher 1940 anonymity break > > fame, was buried at the same cemetery. I live > > nearby and an AA friend and I visited both > > gravesites recently. Quite an experience. If > > anyone is interested in photos I'll be happy > > to email them. > > > > Contact me at: > > mfmargetis@ (mfmargetis at yahoo.com) > >
> > Link to the Markings story, pg 4: > > http://www.aa.org/en_pdfs/f-151_markings_spring07.pdf > > > > Thanks, > > > > Mike Margetis > > Brunswick, Maryland > >
> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5483. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Florence R. and Rollie H. From: charles Knapp . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/13/2009 1:35:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII For Rollie Hemsley, search in the famous names section of Find a Grave for "Ralston Hemsley." It has been there since 2006. Charles from California --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Michael F. Margetis From: Michael F. Margetis Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: Florence R. and Rollie H. To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 8:54 PM Karl, Rollie was already on "Find A Grave", I added a photo that is "pending approval" from the website. Hopefully that will be viewable soon.
photo, so that should be viewable now. Remember when looking up Florence use Kalhoun as her last name, not Rankin. - Mike Margetis Brunswick, Maryland IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5484. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Florence R. and Rollie H. From: Karl Kleen . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/13/2009 2:19:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Silkworth and Dowling on "Find a Grave" --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "Michael F. Margetis" > > Karl,
> > Rollie was already on "Find A Grave", I added > a photo that is "pending approval" from the > website. Hopefully that will be viewable soon. > > I created one for Florence and submitted a > photo, so that should be viewable now. Remember > when looking up Florence use Kalhoun as her > last name, not Rankin. > > - Mike Margetis > Brunswick, Maryland Thank you Mike -- your photo of Rollie's gravestone is indeed viewable now. Earlier I had found the Find A Grave Memorials for Bill, Dr. Bob and their wives. Dr. & Antoinette B Silkworth have Memorials also at:
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From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/13/2009 9:57:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=13530276 One of the members of this group needs to make a wiki entry for him. I don't have time. I still would like to post his photo.
aabibliography.com IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5486. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: SoCal GSR Preamble From: Joseph HerronJr. . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/14/2009 1:21:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII THE GSR PREAMBLE "WE ARE THE GENERAL SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES. WE ARE THE LINK IN THE CHAIN OF COMMUNICATION FOR OUR GROUPS WITH THE GENERAL SERVICE CONFERENCE AND THE WORLD OF A.A. WE REALIZE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN A.A. IS A LOVING GOD AS HE MAY EXPRESS HIMSELF IN OUR GROUP CONSCIENCE. AS TRUSTED SERVANTS, OUR JOB IS TO BRING INFORMATION TO OUR GROUPS IN ORDER THAT THEY CAN REACH AN INFORMED GROUP CONSCIENCE. IN PASSING ALONG THIS GROUP CONSCIENCE, WE ARE HELPING TO MAINTAIN THE UNITY AND STRENGTH SO VITAL TO OUR FELLOWSHIP. LET US, THEREFORE, HAVE THE PATIENCE AND TOLERANCE TO LISTEN WHILE OTHERS SHARE, THE COURAGE TO SPEAK UP WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE, AND THE WISDOM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR GROUPS AS A WHOLE." --- On Sat, 1/10/09, Jocelyn wrote: From: Jocelyn Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: SoCal GSR Preamble To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 2:05 PM Would one of you please post a copy of this preamble? I am not (to my knowledge) familiar with it.
From: Dolores . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/15/2009 6:13:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Dear Joseph, thank you for the GSR preamble. It is a good reminder that we are trusted servants. I find at times when younger members join service and have no sponsor they tend to present AA as a business and not a fellowship.
CER Continental European Region - - - - From: Cindy Miller (cm53 at earthlink.net) Why is this called the Southern California GSR Preamble? It was used here in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania at a District Meeting as recently as 10 years ago. - - - - Original message from: Joseph Herron Jr. To: AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:21 AM Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] Re: SoCal GSR Preamble THE GSR PREAMBLE "WE ARE THE GENERAL SERVICE REPRESENTATIVES. WE ARE THE LINK IN THE CHAIN OF COMMUNICATION FOR OUR GROUPS WITH THE GENERAL SERVICE CONFERENCE AND THE WORLD OF A.A. WE REALIZE THE ULTIMATE AUTHORITY IN A.A. IS A LOVING GOD AS HE MAY EXPRESS HIMSELF IN OUR GROUP CONSCIENCE. AS TRUSTED SERVANTS, OUR JOB IS TO BRING INFORMATION TO OUR GROUPS IN ORDER THAT THEY CAN REACH AN INFORMED GROUP CONSCIENCE. IN PASSING ALONG THIS GROUP CONSCIENCE, WE ARE HELPING TO MAINTAIN THE UNITY AND STRENGTH SO VITAL TO OUR FELLOWSHIP. LET US, THEREFORE, HAVE THE PATIENCE AND TOLERANCE TO LISTEN WHILE OTHERS SHARE, THE COURAGE TO SPEAK UP WHEN WE HAVE SOMETHING TO SHARE, AND THE WISDOM TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT FOR OUR GROUPS AS A WHOLE." IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5488. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: SoCal GSR Preamble From: charles Knapp . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/18/2009 2:24:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII The GSR Preamble We are the General Service Representatives. We are the link in the chain of communication for our groups with the General Service Conference and the world of A.A. We realize the ultimate authority is a loving God as he may express Himself in our Group Conscience. As trusted servants, our job is to bring information to our groups in order that they can reach an informed group conscience. In passing along this group conscience, we are helping to maintain the unity and strength so vital to our fellowship. Let us, therefore, have the patience and tolerance to listen while others share, the courage to speak up when we have something to share, and the wisdom to do what is right for our group and A.A. as a whole.
start here in Southern California and Area 9 in particular. During the time that Genevieve L. was the Panel 24 (1974-75) Delegate of California Mid-Southern Area 9, someone came up with a Preamble to read at Area meetings which was quite a strong directive to GSRs making them the ultimate authority over Alcoholics Anonymous. Gene asked Goldene L., who was the Area Treasurer at the time, to come up with something to soften this Preamble. She did and she came up with the one they are still using today. Goldene L. would later go on and serve as Area 9 Panel 28 (1978-79) Delegate.
Desert, Palm Springs, California printed the G.S.R. Preamble in its May 1988 issue of their newsletter. The GSO staff picks up on it and ran short article and reprinted the preamble in the August/September 1989 issue of Box 459. This preamble is being used in many of the Areas throughout the United States and Canada today.
(cm53 at earthlink.net) Why is this called the Southern California GSR Preamble? It was used here in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania at a District Meeting as recently as 10 years ago. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5489. . . . . . . . . . . . How AA began in Richmond, Indiana (via Jim Burwell) From: Robert Stonebraker . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/16/2009 4:26:00 PM
fortune to live near Richmond, Indiana (the gateway to sobriety for the entire mid-western United States!) but this local document "History of Alcoholics Anonymous in Richmond, Indiana, and vicinity" has just today become available for viewing and/or downloading on our Area 23 Website. http://www.area23aa.org/a/view/Main/Richmond This 50-page PDF Document can be downloaded with one click! But if you would like to research a certain page - perhaps your home town of Greenville, Ohio, or perhaps, Muncie, Indiana, you can simply go to the appropriate page and print it up. Much thanks to Mike H., for making this process possible! Bob S. - - - - From the moderator: And also see the articles on early A.A. in other parts of Indiana collected at "How A.A. Came to Indiana" at:
a detailed fifty-page account of the beginnings of A.A. in Richmond, Indiana and the surround- ing parts of Indiana and Ohio. The town of Richmond is on the state line, roughly halfway between Indianapolis and Dayton, Ohio. The story began when Bob B., a paint store owner in Richmond, got sober by visiting a business associate in Philadelphia, a man named JIM BURWELL who had gotten sober in 1938 and had started A.A. in that city.
Vicious Cycle" (it is on page 219 in the current 4th edition).
"self-proclaimed atheist," the one who insisted that the phrase "as we understood Him" had to be added to the reference to God in Steps 3 and 11.
From: Robert Stonebraker . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/22/2009 1:18:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I am trying to find a biography, or at least an obituary, of Cebra Graves. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
From: jlobdell54 . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/22/2009 8:37:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Culture Alcohol and Society Quarterly, Vol. 3, No. 7 (April-June 2008): 8-16 http://dl.lib.brown.edu/libweb/collections/kirk/casq/ PROGRESS REPORT: THE MESSENGERS TO EBBY: CEBRA G. Cebra Quackenbush G. (1898-1979) was from Bennington, the son of Judge Collins Millard G. (1872-1954). He attended Williams College for a year before enlisting in the Army in World War I, later read law in his father's office, attended Columbia in NYC in 1924, acted on Broadway 1924-27, went back to Vermont, served as State's Attorney in the Bennington district 1928-1932, then State Senator 1933-1935. He married five times, the last time to Lucette Caron Culbert in France, where he lived from 1954 till his death on January 1, 1979, at the age of 80. He met Lucette in the early 1920s through her brother Claude Caron, whose daughter Leslie (b. 1931) may be named after Leslie Cornell (I have written Claude's nephew, Lucette's son, Frédéric [Ted] Culbert, on this). In one of his Broadway stints, Cebe G. acted with Elmer Cornell, a cousin of Shep's and brother of actress Leslie Cornell. Cebe's son Jack Y. C. G., from his third marriage, was a year behind me at Yale (both of us in Saybrook College) and I've been in touch with him. Cebe's brother Van Vechten Breese G. (b. 1906), Brown 1929, still lives in Bennington. I have been given access to the transcript of a recording Bill W. made of Cebra's reminiscences in 1954, so I am using the proper AA form of reference to Cebra G.] The name Cebra reputedly goes back in the Quackenbush (Cebe's mother's) family to "El Cebra" (true name and surname unknown), a patriot in the Dutch War for Independence (1567-1609), who was whipped by the Spaniards ("given stripes") so that he was said to have looked like a zebra ("Cebra"). The surname Yüklə 11,49 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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