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So concentrate on conquering it."
"Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought

for


the things itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof. -- Matthew

VI,


34.

These words are taken from the Sermon on the Mount. Simply, they mean live

in

today only. Forget yesterday. Do not anticipate tomorrow. You can only live



one

day at a time, and if you do a good job of that, you will have little

trouble.

One of the easiest, most practical ways of keeping sober ever devised is the

day

by day plan, the 24-hour plan. You know that it is possible to stay sober



for 24

hours. You have done it many times. All right. Stay sober for one day at a

time.

When you get up in the morning make up your mind that you will not take a



drink

for the entire day. Ask the Greater Power for a little help in this. If

anyone

asks you to have a drink, take a rain check. Say you will have it tomorrow.



Then

when you go to bed at night, finding yourself sober, say a little word of

thanks

to the Greater Power for having helped you. Repeat the performance the next



day.

And the next. Before you realize it you will have been sober a week, a

month, a

year. And yet you will have only been sober a day at a time.


"There is an old saying, "Easy does it." It is a motto that any alcoholic

could


well ponder. A child learns to add and subtract in the lower grades. He is

not


expected to do problems in algebra until he is in high school. Sobriety is a

thing that must be learned step by step. If anything puzzles you, ask your

new

friends about it, or forget it for the time being. The time is not so far



away

when you will have a good understanding of the entire program. Meantime,

EASY

DOES IT!"


From another of the earliest Akron Pamphlets:
"The road to rehabilitation is not as long as the road to alcoholism, but

neither is it as tough. If you have successfully made the Sixth and Seventh

Steps you will fully understand this. Always remember, easy does it. We must

take life and its problems a single thing at a time" The Akron Guide to the

12

Steps
a single thing at a time……… as in one day at a time…….. as in easy



does it?)
As Jared mentions, one of the earliest uses of "But for the grace of

God"….. is

John Bradford who I would suggest took it from Paul's letter to the

Corinthians

slightly out of context but expressing the identical idea as Saint Paul.
As for Think Think Think and how it is used in Romans 12:3………..you be

the judge.


Knowing the Biblical roots of our program as noted above,the fledgling

fellowship (the First Forty and One Hundred)modeling itself after another

fledling fellowship (The Oxford Group) modeling itself after another

fledgling

fellowship (The First Century followers of the teachings of the Man from

Galillee) why should it surprise us that our slogans all came from the

bible?
God Bless
John B
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From: "J. Lobdell" (jlobdell54 at hotmail.com)
I'm not sure what different slant is given by the word "there" before "the

grace


[or Grace] of God" tho' there might well be a different slant according to

whether "Grace" is capitalized. But my point was that the phrase long

antedates

AA (so, for example, does "One Day At A Time" -- which was the title of a

column

by William Lyon Phelps in the newspapers in the 1920s) and I figured AA



history

doesn't start with AA (Washingtonians? Oxford Group?), so perhaps AA

historylovers might be interested in how this slogan started. As I say, I'm

not


sure I see a significant difference between "but for the Grace of God" and

"[There] but for the Grace of God" -- but they may well have different

connotations to different people. I certainly agree that contentiousness is

in

the eye of the beholder: it just happens that -- just in my experience --



the

view that alcoholics do not get sober on their own isn't particularly

contentious -- which was my other point here.
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From: Baileygc23@aol.com (Baileygc23 at aol.com)
Although Bill W most likely went along with the

slogans, he did point out that the new comer is

sensitive to aggression in the name of spirituality.

God making me better off than the next person is

aggression. The beholder may think that we are

making fun of him.


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++++Message 5843. . . . . . . . . . . . Serenity Prayer and conference

approval


From: The Wilsons . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/2/2009 1:56:00 AM
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Just out of curiousity, since the short form

of the Serenity Prayer is given at the end of

the chapter on Step Three in the book "Twelve

Steps and Twelve Traditions," and that book

is conference approved, wouldn't that

automatically make this version of the short

form of the Serenity Prayer a conference

approved text?


Bob Wilson
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++++Message 5844. . . . . . . . . . . . Another of the slogans: Think think

think


From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/1/2009 1:40:00 PM
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We have been discussing the early AA slogans,

especially "But for the Grace of God."


But another of the early slogans was also

mentioned:


This one -- "Think think think" -- was perhaps

not biblical. It seems to have been an IBM slogan

put up on a Cleveland AA bulletin board or the

equivalent ca 1944 much to the chagrin of

Clarence S., who observed (approximately)

"Alcoholics don't think -- they emote."


(Mitch K. can probably provide chapter and

verse on this.)


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> From: John B

(jax760 at yahoo.com)

> Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009

> Subject: Re: There but for the grace of God


> The Biblical Roots of the Slogans are as follows"
> Think Think Think - Romans12:3

> "For I say, through the grace given unto me,

to every man that is among you, not to think of

himself more highly than he ought to think; but

to think soberly, according as God hath dealt

to every man the measure of faith."


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++++Message 5845. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: There but for the grace of God

From: Arthur S . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/3/2009 12:03:00 AM


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If you have a copy of the March 1, 1941

Saturday Evening Post magazine with Jack

Alexander's article, one of the photos is

of a staged meeting (its caption ends with

"... A typical clubhouse discussion group").
Prominently displayed on the wall above a

fireplace mantle behind the attendees facing

forward (i.e. Ruth Hock, Bill W, Dick S and

Lois W) is a rather large sign (possibly

needlepoint embroidery) that reads "But for

the Grace of God."


Cheers

Arthur
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++++Message 5846. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group in each US state and

Canadian province

From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2009 6:22:00 PM
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Someone has suggested that we work out a list

giving the town or city in which the first AA

group was formed in each of the 50 US states

and 10 Canadian provinces, and also (where

possible) the month, day, and year the group

was started.


This will be used as part of the celebration

of AA's 75th anniversary next year.


I'll start it off by giving the information

on my home state of Indiana, plus the date

of Dr. Bob's last drink in Akron, Ohio.
It would be appreciated if someone from each

state and province could write in and give us

the relevant information for where they live.
Thanks!
Glenn C., South Bend, Indiana
THE 50 U.S. STATES:

Alabama


Alaska

Arizona


Arkansas

California

Colorado

Connecticut

Delaware

Florida


Georgia

Hawaii


Idaho

Illinois


Indiana: Evansville, 23 April 1940

Iowa


Kansas

Kentucky


Louisiana

Maine


Maryland

Massachusetts

Michigan

Minnesota

Mississippi

Missouri


Montana

Nebraska


Nevada

New Hampshire

New Jersey

New Mexico

New York

North Carolina

North Dakota

Ohio: Akron, 17 June 1935

Oklahoma

Oregon


Pennsylvania

Rhode Island

South Carolina

South Dakota

Tennessee

Texas


Utah

Vermont


Virginia

Washington

West Virginia

Wisconsin

Wyoming
(also Washington DC)
THE 10 CANADIAN PROVINCES:

Alberta


British Columbia

Manitoba


New Brunswick

Newfoundland and Labrador

Nova Scotia

Ontario


Prince Edward Island

Quebec


Saskatchewan
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++++Message 5847. . . . . . . . . . . . T. Willard Hunter died on July 1,

2009


From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2009 8:44:00 PM
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Rev. T. Willard Hunter passed away July 1 2009

in Claremont, California. He was co-author of

"Uncommon Friends" by Jim Newton. He and Newton

were Oxford Group members. Willard had been in

the company of Frank Buchman, Sam Shoemaker,

and many other well-known early Oxford Group

people.
For more about him, see:
http://aabibliography.com/t_willard_hunter.html
LD Pierce editor

www.aabibliography.com


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++++Message 5848. . . . . . . . . . . . History of the Chicago Group

From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 11:33:00 AM


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From

(dbennitt at sbcglobal.net)


History of the Chicago Group
http://hindsfoot.org/chicago1.pdf
From Don B., Past Delegate from Chicago.
History of Chicago area A.A. from the first

group meeting on September 20, 1939 in Earl

Treat's apartment in Evanston, down to the

early 1970's.


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++++Message 5849. . . . . . . . . . . . AA''s First Meeting on the West

Coast: San Francisco

From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 11:12:00 AM
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From (BruceKen at aol.com)
AA's First Meeting on the West Coast

November 21, 1939 in San Francisco


Full story at http://hindsfoot.org/wcoast1.pdf
(Adapted from C.N.C.A History, prepared by the

CNCA Archives Committee, September 1984)


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++++Message 5850. . . . . . . . . . . . Who is going to the National

Archives Workshop?

From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2009 3:07:00 PM
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I would like to have a compilation of all the

AAHL members who will be attending the National

Archives Workshop in September, before we get

there if possible.


Perhaps we could get together after we arrive

and urge them to have more AA history sessions

during the annual Workshops.
If you're going to be there, please email me at:
(Shakey1aa at aol.com)
Shakey Mike Gwirtz

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania


- - - -
THE WORKSHOP ANNOUNCEMENT
Original message from: Charles Knapp

(cdknapp at pacbell.net)
The 13th National Archives Workshop will be

Sept 24 thru 27th, 2009

in Woodland Hills, California
[a western suburb of LOS ANGELES]
See their flyer at:
http://www.aanationalarchivesworkshop.com/
______________________________
From: "Lee Carroll"

(FriendLeeCPA at msn.com)


September 24th - 27th 2009
Warner Center Marriott Hotel

21850 Oxnard Blvd

Woodland Hills, California 91367

phone: 818 887 4800


Room rate = $110/night plus tax (mention

NAAAW), cutoff date Sept 7th


Special Guest:

National Archives Workshop Archivist Gail L.


Preservation/Conservation Presenters:

David C. (Washington), Perry D. (Arkansas),

Terry L. (Arkansas) using a hands on format
Chair - George R

818 378-4186 NAAAW09@aol.com


Co-chair - Mike S

805 338 5140 aaarchivesmike@sbcglobal.net


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++++Message 5851. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group in Texas: Houston

From: Arthur S . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/8/2009 8:00:00 PM


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AA Started in Texas in February 1940
In late January and early February 1940, the Houston Press ran a series of

six articles about AA written anonymously by Larry J (Jewell). He was

rescued from Cleveland's skid row by the AA members there and had set out by

train from Cleveland to live and work in Houston. Larry had never attended

an AA meeting. While reading the Big Book on the train he had a spiritual

awakening. Soon after the articles were published Larry was joined by Roy Y

(Yeargan) and Ed H (Hudson) and AA started in Texas. The first Texas AA

meeting was on March 15, 1940 at the Houston YMCA. The news articles also

attracted the first Texas woman AA member, Benita C, who later married Larry

J.
The Houston Press Editor, Allen C Bartlett, hired Larry as an editorial

writer. In April 1940, the Alcoholic Foundation reprinted Larry J's Houston

Press articles as AA's first pamphlet. Sadly, though, Larry J later returned

to drinking and it lead to his death in 1944.
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Info on the date of Dr Bob's last drink (based on some old, old notes)

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The date of June 17, 1935 looks pretty compelling as Dr Bob's sober date.

The AMA Archives in Chicago, IL has confirmed that the 1935 Atlantic City,

NJ Convention that Dr Bob attended was held from Monday to Friday June

10-14. Images of the AMA convention program and session minutes are

circulating on the web showing June 10-14, 1935 as the dates of the

convention.


There are also good clues in AA literature for a deduction.
In "AA Comes of Age" (pgs 70-71) Bill W writes "So he [Dr Bob] went to the

Atlantic City Medical Convention and nothing was heard of him for several

days." In "Dr Bob and the Good Oldtimers" (pgs 72-75) it cites (with editing

for brevity): "Dr Bob ... began drinking ... as he boarded the train to

Atlantic City. On his arrival he bought several quarts on his way to the

hotel. That was Sunday night. He stayed sober on Monday until after dinner

... On Tuesday, Bob started drinking in the morning and ... [checked out of

the hotel] ... The next thing he knew ... he was ... in the ... home of his

office nurse ... The blackout was certainly more than 24 hours long ... Bill

and Anne had waited for five days from the time Bob left before they heard

from the nurse ... She had picked him up that morning at the Akron railroad

station ... As Bill and Sue [Smith] remembered, there was a 3-day sobering

up period ... Upon Dr Bob's return, they had discovered that he was due to

perform surgery 3 days later ... At 4 o'clock on the morning of the

operation [Bob] . said 'I am going through with this ...' On the way to City

Hospital ... Bill ... gave him a beer ..." In the video "Bill's Own Story"

Bill W says he gave Dr Bob a beer and "goofball" [a barbiturate] the morning

of the surgery. The same information is repeated in "Pass It On" pgs

147-149. See also "Not God" pgs 32-33.
Estimate of timeline based on the above:
June 09 Sunday: started drinking on the train to Atlantic City - in New

Jersey he bought several quarts and checked into Atlantic City hotel


June 10 Monday: stayed sober until after dinner
June 11 Tuesday: started drinking in the morning - later checked out of the

hotel.
June 12 Wednesday: was in a blackout (likely greater than 24 hours)


June 13 Thursday: blackout continues (may have arrived at Akron train

station)
June 14 Friday: picked up by nurse in the morning at the train station. Then

picked up by Bill W at nurse's house (5 days after leaving). Day 1 of 3-day

dry out period with Bill W.


June 15 Saturday: day 2 of 3-day dry out period with Bill W.
June 16 Sunday: day 3 of 3-day dry out period with Bill W.
June 17 Monday: day of the surgery - Bill W gives Dr Bob a beer and a

goofball (3 days after Dr Bob's return)


Cheers

Arthur
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++++Message 5852. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group in Pennsylvania:

Philadelphia

From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/9/2009 9:58:00 AM
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Pennsylvania -- Philadelphia Feb 28 1940.
The founders included Jim B., Charlie B.,

Bayard B., Fitz M., George S., McCready H.

[at whose place it was held, 2209 Delancey St],

and Ed P.


Bayard B. was also the founder of AA on

Martha's Vineyard -- he's the only one I

ever met, shortly before his death in,

I think, 1961.


Jim B. and Fitz have stories in the Big Book.
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From: Cindy Miller

(cm53 at earthlink.net)


Pennsylvania: Philadelphia, 28 February 1940
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From: Shakey1aa@aol.com
Greetings from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania,

where the 1st organizational meeting was

2/28/1940 and the 1st group was the

Philadelphia Mother Group formed by Jimmy

Burwell on March 6, 1940.
In "Memoirs of Jimmy" he states that "between

Feb and June 1940 Fitz," meaning J. H. Fitzhugh

Mayo "and myself started groups in Philadelphia,

Washington and Baltimore."


Shakey Mike Gwirtz

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania

(see you at the National Archives Workshop

in California later this summer)


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++++Message 5853. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group: Minn., N.J., Utah,

S.C., Mich., Wisc., Akron

From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 12:55:00 PM
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Minnesota, New Jersey, Utah, South Carolina,

Michigan, Wisconsin, Akron group founding date

celebrated as July 4, 1935
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First AA group in Minnesota
From Jean F.

(jeanfid at gmail.com)


Patrick Cronin's dry date was November 11,

1940; he was visited by Chan Forman (a former

Minnesotan) and Bill Long from Chicago AA.

The Armistice Day blizzard kept them here in

Minneapolis long enough to help Cronin stay

sober and hear the message.


In April of 1941 Pat got two rooms (which

quickly spread to five rooms) and a telephone

at 200 East Franklin so as to organize a group.
Bill Wilson made his first visit here to

Minneapolis on October 26, 1941. Eventually

the club was moved to the Washburn House at

2218 1st Ave So, now lovingly known as the

Cronin house.
I'm sure there are others who will chime

in here~
Thanks!

Jean F in Minnesota
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From: Lynn Sawyer

(sawyer7952 at yahoo.com)


What a cool idea for A.A.'s 75th!!
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From: (jax760 at yahoo.com)
South Orange, New Jersey May 14, 1939

(AA Group #4)


I would respectfully point out that AA

Literature lists Akron Group #1 as July 4, 1935.

The discharge date of Bill Dotson from Akron

City Hospital. Akron Intrergroup has confirmed

to me that 7/4 is the day they celebrate their

anniversary.


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From: "Kimball ROWE"

(roweke at msn.com)


Utah - Dec 19, 1944 Salt Lake Group #1 formed,

Owen L (the man that carried the message to Utah)

was elected group secretary.
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From: (aadavidi at yahoo.com)
South Carolina: Spartanburg, September 15, 1944
per SC archives website -
http://www.area62.org/committees/archives/schist.htm
[From the moderator: but that document indicates

that the Spartanburg group stopped meeting after

a while and had to be restarted, so Columbia,

South Carolina, in late November 1944, may hold

the title of oldest continuing group in that state.

Both places and dates have therefore been inserted

in the list.]
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From: "Cherie' H."

(odaat5 at gmail.com)


Jan 4, 1940 - 1st AA group formed in Detroit,

Michigan.


Cherie' H

Warren, MI


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From: (cpknapp at yahoo.com)
California: San Francisco, November 21, 1939
Wisconsin: Milwaukee May 1, 1941
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++++Message 5854. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA groups: places where we

need more accurate dates

From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 7/10/2009 1:33:00 PM
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See Message 3679

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/3679


From the list which Ruth Hock gave on November

14, 1940 of the AA groups which were in existence

by then, we know that these seven cities had AA

established by that date:


Arkansas: Little Rock

Connecticut: Greenwich

Maryland: Baltimore

New York: New York City

Vermont: Wallingford

Virginia: Richmond

Washington D.C.
Can someone give us more precise dates for the


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