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Oregon
GV Nov45, from the News Circuit column:

The Portland, Ore., A. A. s now have their own

club rooms in the heart of the city. Although

the first Portland group was founded less than

two years ago, two active groups are now functioning

there and holding regular bi-weekly sessions.

In a note from one of the members,

headed "Handshake across the Rockies, " it is

reported that the groups have rented 2, 000

square feet of space on the second floor of a

building directly across the street from the

public library.


GV Feb46, from the News Circuit column:

Acquisition of clubrooms by the Portland,

Oregon, Group has been announced.
GV Jly46, from the News Circuit column:

The M i l l Creek Group

of Salem, Ore., recently held an essay contest

for members, who wrote on "What A.A. Means

to Me." .
GV Aug46, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Salem.
GV Oct46, from the News Circuit column:

From the Pacific Northwest: The Portland, Oregon, Group

is making sure, steady progress.
GV Dec46, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Astoria; Eugene.
GV Mar47, from the News Circuit column:

Portland, Ore., now has three groups

with possibility of having to start a fourth as

the result of continued growth.


GV June47, from the News Circuit column:

Discuss Northwest Conference—Possibilities

of a Northwest conference have been discussed

recently, according to the Beacon Hill

Group of Victoria, B. C., Canada, with Vancouver

and Vancouver Island Groups to join

with those from Washington and Oregon. Victoria

has been mentioned as a possible locale

with a two or three day meeting suggested.

Seattle, Spokane, Tacoma and other Northwest

groups are reported as welcoming the idea and

promising to send good representations if it is

held. Victoria A.A.s are also following the

amendments and debates on a brief presented

recently to the Provincial Cabinet by Vancouver,

Victoria and New Westminster A.A.s concerning

education on alcoholism.
GV Aug47, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—North Lincoln Group

(Ocean Lake).

GV Oct47, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—La Grande, Group No. I in

Pendleton.

GV Feb48, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Roseburg

GV Mar48, the New Groups column lists - OREGON — Portland (Business

Professional Group)

GV Apr48, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Portland.

GV May48, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Medford.

GV Jly48, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Hood River.

GV Aug48, the New Groups column lists - OREGON—Cottage Grove.
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++++Message 5980. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: North Carolina

From: t . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/21/2009 7:08:00 PM


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North Carolina
GV Jan45, from the News Circuit column:

The husky Braves pitcher, Nate Andrews,

while at training camp last spring, went on a

terrific tear that involved hidden bottles,

nerve pills, and frantic long-distance telephone

calls. The whole of it ended in columns

of bad publicity, He was rescued by

the BOSTON A. A. s, and though there was lit -

tle confidence that the good-natured, popular

Nate would ever fully recover from his

ordeal, he did. With a sixth-place team, Nate

won 16, lost 15 games, He was the best

pitcher on the club. An enthusiastic member

of the Boston A. A. group, he spoke often at

meetings. The publicity given his dive overboard

and subsequent rescue brought into

the group one hundred and fifty new men

during the summer. Retaining his delightful

sense of humor, Nate said just before returning

to his home in North Carolina, "But Ah

told 'em they needn't expect me to make an

example out of myself every spring. "


GV Aug45, from half page article, "Shelby Group helps Carolinian Find

Himself"


In the fall of 1939 the first A. A. meeting was

held in Shelby, North Carolina. A group of

three men met in the office of Dr. M., the sponsor

of the group. Since then the group has

moved meeting places several limes. At present

we have clubrooms in an uptown hotel. This

location is ideal, being in the center of town.

We have the usual club furnishings, lockers,

showers, piano, radio, pool table, reading room,

and a seating capacity of one hundred and

twenty-five.

The membership has grown from three to

forty solid members. Since 1939 more than a

hundred members have passed through the club,

many of whom are now in the armed services;

others have gone to work in war plants, while

some have moved for business reasons. In the

past year, the Shelby group has been instrumental

in starting clubs in Asheville, Charlotte,

and Gastonia, in North Carolina, and in Spartanburg

and Rock Hill in South Carolina. Some

of these groups in the larger cities have grown

fast and are doing outstanding work; all have

got over most of their growing pains. All of

these towns and cities being nearby, we have

many inter-club meetings, which have been

most helpful.
GV Feb46, from the New Groups column - Fayetteville, North Carolina;

GV May46, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA — Whitakers and

Rich Square.

GV Apr46, from the New Groups column - Belhaven, N. C.


GV Apr46, from the News Circuit column:

The Rock Hill, S. C., Group was host to all

the North and South Carolina groups at a meeting

last month. Two hundred representatives

were present from Raleigh, Chapel Hill, Charlotte,

Shelby, Winston-Salem, Asheville, Hendersonville,

N. C., and Columbia, Anderson,

Chester, Greenville, S. C.


GV June46, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Lenoir and

Washington.

GV Jly46, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Henderson.
GV Sept46, from Clip Sheet [newspaper clippings] column:

Chapel Hill, N. C., Weekly: "James S., the

novelist who lives in Chapel Hill, is a member

of Alcoholics Anonymous. . . .

"One day recently he got a telephone call from

a fellow member, a business man in a town not

far from here, who felt the mania coming on.

'Come right on over here,' said Mr. S. The man

did come, but on the way be obtained a supply

of liquor, and when be arrived late in the afternoon

he was roaring drunk.

"There was no hospital to take him to, so Mr.

S. decided he would ask the police to let him stay

overnight in the jail in the basement of the Town

Hall.

"The initial trouble was that the police did



not know Mr. S. Not being familiar with Alcoholics

Anonymous, naturally they did not at

once understand his explanations.

" 'No wonder they thought there was something

queer about me,' be said afterward. 'I had

just come off my farm. I was in old dirty clothes

and had a heavy growth of heard.'

"He named several persons in Chapel Hill

with whom he was acquainted. The jail was

empty at the time, and the police willingly took

the stranger in. Mr. S., seeing that there was

plenty of room, asked if he could stay there, too.

The police said yes, and he went to bed in one

of the four bunks in the cell. Next morning the

stranger, sobered up, was attended to according

to the approved A.A. method."


GV Sept46, from the News Circuit column:

Definite arrangements have been completed

for the Southern Regional Meeting in Asheville,

N. C., September 16, 17 and 18, with the George

Vanderbilt Hotel as headquarters. Plans are being

made to accommodate the largest A.A. crowd

yet assembled in the South. Nationally known

speakers will be heard, and scheduled A.A.

clinics will be held. These plans were announced

at an Inter-Group meeting of all the Carolina

groups which took place recently in Shelby,

N. C., and was attended by about 90 members

and their families.
GV Oct46, from the News Circuit column:

In Charlotte, N. C., where the group has been

unable to find any permanent clubroom space

at all, and where the various meetings are held

in different places, the problem has been partially

solved by a member of the judiciary.

Judge Reed of the Domestic Court has generously

given over his courtroom at the Mecklenburg

County Court House for two meetings a

week. . . . The Charlotte branch, which had its

inception in 1942 and reports "92% happy and

sober," was well represented at a big meeting in

Greenville, S. C. Other members came from

groups in Rock Hill, Anderson, Spartanburg,

and Inman, S. C.; and from Shelby (the original

group of the Carolinas), and Asheville,

N. C. Bennettsville is a recent South Carolina

group to get going; others reporting increasing

numbers in the two states are Andrews, Charleston,

Greensboro, Greenville and Hendersonville.

The two-man Elizabeth City, N. C., Group visits

religiously the meetings at Norfolk, Va.


GV Oct46, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Greensboro,

Greenville and Statesville.

GV Nov46, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Asheville (No. 2),

Bethel.
GV Nov46, from the Clip Sheet column:

Asheville, N. C., Citizen: "With more than

300 delegates registered, and 100 more expected

to arrive, the annual Southeastern convention

of Alcoholics Anonymous held its sessions in

the main ballroom of the George Vanderbilt

Hotel here.

"The delegates represented 139 Groups from

13 .states. Throughout the convention, several

nationally-known members of the organization

were speakers."


GV Dec46, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Chapel Hill; High

Point.


GV Jan47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA : Hickory.

GV Mar47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Rowland; Graham.

GV Apr47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Wilmington;

Charlott (Myers Park Group).

GV May47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Albemarle;

Leaksville; New River.


GV June47, from the News Circuit column:

Since starting almost a year ago the Chapel Hill, N. C.,

Group has branched out with groups started in

Burlington, Raleigh and Durham. Although losing

some members to the new organizations,

stimulating programs have kept the attendance

between 20 and 40 and members report it has

not been "to difficult to keep interest alive."

. . . From Charlotte, N. C., The A.A. Grapevine

hears that the Myers Park Group held its first

meeting in February and has grown fast since

that time. Meetings are Monday nights at 8 at

the Myers Park Methodist Church.
GV June47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA — Durham;

Lumberton; Raleigh; Southern Pines.

GV Aug47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Bladenboro; Boone.
GV Aug47, from the News Circuit column:

The Durham, N. C. Group was reorganized early this year with

five members, one former member of the old

group, and it now numbers about 30, all new

except the one mentioned. Progress is felt to be

on a solid basis. The Durham Group, with the

cooperation of the Chapel Hill, Burlington and

Raleigh Groups, hopes to hold a public meeting

soon. Several Durham members recently visited

New York and enjoyed a visit to the Alcoholic

Foundation.
GV Sept47, from an article titled "Half-a-Man A Year Ago Now Does Work

of Many In Salisbury, N. C. Group"

We started our group here in Salisbury, N. C.

November 6, 1946, with what we called five and

one-half members! This half member had just

come off a terrible three-weeks' bender and was

so shaky we told him he really didn't count as

a whole member. But, believe me, be counts

now. He has enjoyed complete sobriety since

then, and has brought many members to our

group. During our ten months of existence,

more than fifty alcoholics have joined us. Not

all of them stuck, but the majority did. Some

of these have moved away or have traveling jobs

which prevent their taking an active part in our

group work, but they are sober and giving

credit to A.A. More than two dozen of us are

wearing A.A. pins which means that the wearers

have three or more months of sobriety to their

credit.
GV Aug47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Kings Mountain,

Lincolnton.
GV Aug47, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA — Asheville

(Beverly Hills Group), New Bern


GV Nov47, from the News Circuit column:

North Carolina Groups Solid—From

Kings Mountain, N. C.. The. Grapevine's correspondent

reports that not only his own Group

with 12 members, but others, are "solid." The

Kings Mountain Group was started some years

ago by Paul M., a non-alcoholic, who provided

transportation to Shelby for anyone wishing to

try the A.A. way. The group reports a gain of

about a member each week. . . The Shelby Group

is over six years old and has been aiding men

from all over the South. . . Lincolnton is growing

and has a fine clubroom open all the time, while

Hickory, too, has a growing Group and good

quarters. . . The Gastonia Group has started for

the third time, with new determination to suc-

ceed. . . Rockhill now has about 30 members.

They meet with men from York, Chester and

Fort Mill each Wednesday. Members from other

towns also attend. . . Andrews Group has also

been growing and helping Conway, S. C., and

Myrtle Beach get going. Bennettsville, S. C., and

Rowland. N. C., are holding regular weekly

meetings with good results. . . Average attendance

at Charlotte has been about 50 with six to

eight new men at each meeting. The new club

room is ready to go. The Myers Park Group

meets at Myers Park Methodist Church Monday

and Friday nights at 8, with open sessions and

fellowship gatherings following. New men and

women from all groups meet at the YMCA on

Sunday night to the number of about 85 to 90,

starting with a general subject and splitting up

into three discussion groups.

. . . Another Women's Auxiliary—Along with

a list of 10 subscriptions to The Grapevine, the

Hickory, N. C., Group reports that all these new

subscribers are part of a recently formed A.A.

Auxiliary of 36 members who plan to study A.A.

as well as help other women who are "going

through what we have, and maybe through the

wives bring other men into A.A." There are two

meetings and one social every month.
GV Nov47, from article "Memphis Figures" on the recent Memphis convention:

A total of 24 states and Canada, and 112

groups were represented in the registration.

Tennessee, of course, led in both the. number of

groups represented—11—and in the number of

individual A.A.s attending—173. Alabama was

second with 57 members from 10 groups attending.

North Carolina was third in the number of

groups represented, accounting for nine, but

Oklahoma, though technically outside the conference

region, reported the third largest number

of individual A.A.s present, with 47.


GV Nov47, from the Clip Sheet column:

Gastonia, N. C., Gazette—"A small but growing

group of Gastonia men assembles in a room

in uptown Gastonia each Thursday in the interest

of self help. It is a sober group, pursuing a sane

and sober objective. It is a unit of Alcoholics

Anonymous, an organization of those suffering

from the disease of alcoholism or near-alcoholism,

and to reclaiming their lives for wholesome

and productive living. That it is a stride forward

in the interest of both the individual and society

is evident from the thousands of lives reclaimed

from stagnation and turned to constructive pursuits

by A.A. already."


GV Jan48, from the News Circuit column:

Asheville Into New Quarters—Formed

in March, 1944, and now numbering

60 members, the Asheville, N. C.,

Group recently moved into its new

club and celebrated with open house.

Included in the new home are a spacious

lounge, comfortably furnished

club rooms, coffee bar, large log burning

fireplace, a pool table and

two bowling alleys.
GV Feb48, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Henderson

GV Mar48, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA — Oxford


GV Mar48, from the News Circuit column:

Six Out of Seven—New quarters for

the Henderson (N. C.) Group are

ready for occupancy, the membership

roll totals about 30 and the record

shows two open banquets, with 80 persons

in attendance at each, in addition

to the regular weekly meetings—all in

scarcely five months. The group held

its first meeting last October 1, with

seven alcoholics present. Of those

original seven, six have gained and

maintained their sobriety.
GV Apr48, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Clinton, Columbia,

Rockingham.


GV May48, from AA Digest [clips from group publications]:

A.A. Rebound, Asheville, N. C.: "We have heard recent talk about

A.A. Tradition and that we should study and familiarize ourselves with

the 12 Points. There may be some who immediately view with alarm

and look around inquiringly to ask, "What's wrong?" There is nothing

wrong. The ship is on an even keel. All is well. But do we recall our

various school day (and later) vaccinations and their purpose? Well,

that's what a study of the A.A. Tradition can be, preventive medicine.

We owe it to ourselves and to the group to inoculate ourselves against

any possible disease of disharmony or disunity. In knowledge we are

forewarned and forearmed. The booklet of A.A. Tradition, properly

absorbed, is a concrete vaccination."


GV June48, from the News Circuit column:

Another new group is thriving in Oxford, N. C.

Starting with five members last December

the group now has 20 members and reports

no slips to date.
GV Aug48, from the New Groups column - NORTH CAROLINA—Dunn.
GV Aug48, from Calendar of Events:

November 5-6-7—North Carolina

Groups; First Annual Convention,

Charlotte, N. C.


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++++Message 5981. . . . . . . . . . . . Who suffered from grave emotional

and mental disorders?

From: katiebartlett79 . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/22/2009 10:45:00 AM
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Hi,
Katie from Barking Big Book study, The Way Out.
Chapter 5, How It Works, first paragraph:

"There are those, too, who suffer from grave

emotional and mental disorders, but many of

them do recover if they have the capacity to

be honest."
In the period before the Big Book was written,

do we know the names of any specific people

who got sober in AA in spite of the fact that

they suffered from "grave emotional and mental

disorders"?
On what specific experience(s) were they

basing this statement?


Thanks
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++++Message 5982. . . . . . . . . . . . Review of Bill White''s book Slaying

the Dragon

From: allan_gengler . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/26/2009 9:08:00 AM
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John Barton , in a message about

Bill W. and High Watch Farm, wrote:

>

> See William L. White, "Slaying the Dragon:



> The History of Addiction Treatment and Recovery

> in America ," pages 172-175.


Here's a pretty good book review of that book,

which looks very interesting:


http://www.unhooked.com/booktalk/slaying_the_dragon.htm
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From GC the moderator: For those who do not

know about Bill White's book, it is on Charlie

Bishop's list of the Fifty Best Books to read

for a good understanding of A.A. history:


http://hindsfoot.org/fiftybk.html
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++++Message 5983. . . . . . . . . . . . First AA group in Louisiana

From: Dale T. Doucet . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/25/2009 12:21:00 AM


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First registered group in Louisiana:

New Orleans Group

May 1943 - 12 members
They organized in March 1943, and were listed

in the Times Picayune** with an invitation for

all with a drinking problem to come to an

organizational meeting.


The first lone member in New Orleans was in

August 1942.


Louisiana's first contact with New York was in

1940.
(thanks Jimmy H.)


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**The Times Picayune is the famous New Orleans

newspaper, founded in 1837, when it sold for

a Spanish coin called a picayune, worth one

sixteenth of a U.S. dollar.


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++++Message 5984. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: North Dakota

From: t . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/21/2009 7:09:00 PM


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North Dakota
GV Aug45, from the News Circuit column:

In Fargo, N. D., a pastor speaking

before a businessmen's club, said the basis for

A. A. 's effectiveness was "spiritual. "


GV Aug46, from the New Groups column - NORTH DAKOTA—Cando, Fargo, Grand

Forks and Kenmare.

GV Nov46, from the New Groups column - NORTH DAKOTA—Beach.

GV Dec46, from the New Groups column - NORTH DAKOTA—Jamestown.

GV Mar47, from the New Groups column - NORTH DAKOTA—New Rockford.
GV Nov47, from the News Circuit column:

Jamestown, N. D,, Group, which was organized

September 28, 1946, observed its first anniversary

recently with the two members of the St.

Paul, Minn., Group who started the organization

returning for the meeting to present year pins to

three of the original group. During the year the

Group has tripled in growth and in becoming

associated with the North Dakota State hospital

in the city has aided with hospitalized alcoholics

as a major part of its 12th Step work. More

than 30 patients have been exposed to A.A.

through this group and have been sent out to

other groups or to organize their own groups in

some other part of the state. The project for the

coming year will be to acquaint better the local

and civic community with the workings and

benefits of A.A.


GV Jly48, article titled "A New Club Room Comes From Price Of A Cup of

Coffee"


A year ago there were 15 of us ex-stews

in Fargo. Number 16, upon completion of

hospitalization for his last drunk—that is

—nervous breakdown—asked a 12th Stepper

to pay for his coffee. Because, he said,

all he had to his name was a silver dollar

which had come his way the day he was

released. This A.A. neophyte, still thinking

alcoholically, saw an opportunity for

a free cup of coffee. The old 12th Stepper

saw hope. Fargo's ex-Scotch-drinking

Scotchman and intellectual par excellence

visualized a symbol. Says Mac, "And your

carrying the silver as a Symbol of Sobriety?"

So our group became the S.O.S. Group of

Fargo. We purchased a new clubhouse . . .

SILVER DOLLAR, SYMBOL OF SOBRIETY,

SOCIETY OF FARGO, NORTH DAKOTA,

and became a non-profit corporation

set up in accordance with the laws

of North Dakota for giving the philosophy

of A.A. and holding property.

Perhaps we were piqued when we were

tagged the Society of Soaks. Because that

Silver Dollar was our own non-abstract

symbol of the abstract philosophy freeing

US from desperate terrifying distress . . .

even as it is the international call of distress.

And should we reach for the change

for that first drink there is that 1922 mint

dollar, with our initials and dry date suitably

inscribed, reminding us of our morning

pledge. Why even the United States

Mint cooperated with the words . . . "In

God We Trust"! ! !

Humorous Suggestions

Yes, we were even flattered when such

humorous suggestions as "Shakes Over

Scotch"—"Scarcity of Stimulants"—"Solicitors

of Stews"—"Soaks Often Shaky"

. . . and such sober truths as "Surrender or

Stumble"—"Slippers Often Skeptical"—

"Soaks Open Sanitarium"—"Scotch, Opiates,

Stumblebums" . . . were proposed.

Now there are 50 of us ... and that Silver

Dollar????

JUST ASK THE MAN WHO OWNS

ONE! ! ! !— E.V.G., Fargo, N. D.


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++++Message 5985. . . . . . . . . . . . Beginnings of AA in New Hampshire

From: Bob Kelley . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/27/2009 7:48:00 AM


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New Hampshire A.A. Chronology

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Alcoholic Anonymous . New Hampshire . Area 43


1946 - 2003
JUNE 1946

In the 1962 Delegate report Glen E. S. said that in Portsmouth (1946) there

were some closed private AA meetings in Lawyer Arthur M.'s office. Then a

man by by the name of Arthur D. came from Boston. Arthur came from a family

of musicians that liked to hassle the Italians whenever they could and there

was old J.B., a well-known businessman in Portsmouth. They had AA meetings

in Banker Bill W.'s House on Middle Street. Later the meetings moved to the

Portsmouth Community Center.


AUGUST 1946

Our first organized A.A. Group was in Manchester in August of 1946. A woman

by the name of Mary W. who got sober in New Rochelle N.Y. went to the City

Hall in Manchester and spoke with Judge Chretien and Monsignor James McGreal

about starting an AA meeting, they liked the idea and gave her a meeting

place in the City Hall building. This meeting eventually disbanded and in

August of 1947 The Brookside Original AA Group was founded.
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++++Message 5986. . . . . . . . . . . . Is there a work called "Widows of

AA"?


From: juan.aa98 . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/27/2009 9:31:00 AM
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Is there a pamphlet or other piece of

literature called "Widows of AA" ?


I have run across a reference to it, but do

not know if it actually exists.


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++++Message 5987. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Review of Bill White''s book

Slaying the Dragon

From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/26/2009 9:20:00 PM
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Bill White's Slaying the Dragon, ever

since its publication, has also been on the

AA Bibliography website and its beginner's

"Recommended AA History Readings":


http://aabibliography.com/beginnersbooks.htm
http://aabibliography.com/pdffiles/beginbksbibliography.pdf

(list updated Jan 09)


I have two other book reviews of this book I

need to post, one by myself and one by another

person.
I always wanted my site or some other site

to have a book review area like the one where

the review of Bill White's book appeared:

The Life Ring site at http://www.unhooked.com/

with the book reviews on its Book Talk section at

http://lsrbooks.blogspot.com/


I have tried to imitate this on my own on the

aabibliography.com site, but not with much

success. The secular Life Ring folks seem to

have much advanced, and have had much more

dedication and concentration on reviewing books

about drug addiction, alcoholism and even

Alcoholics Anonymous, than the AA's and Alanons

have.
Of course a blog posting web setup like the one

they have is much more efficient than the way I

had wanted to do it on the aabibliography site.


(Even unhooked.com has changed from older manual

format to blog format.)


This site (unhooked.com) also reviews White's

other book "Inebriates," which I do not own.


LD Pierce

aabibliograpy.com


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In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "allan_gengler"

wrote:

>

> John Barton , in a message about



> Bill W. and High Watch Farm, wrote:

> >


> > See William L. White, "Slaying the Dragon:

> > The History of Addiction Treatment and Recovery

> > in America ," pages 172-175.

>

> Here's a pretty good book review of that book,



> which looks very interesting:

>

> http://www.unhooked.com/booktalk/slaying_the_dragon.htm



>

> - - - -

>

> From GC the moderator: For those who do not



> know about Bill White's book, it is on Charlie

> Bishop's list of the Fifty Best Books to read

> for a good understanding of A.A. history:

>

> http://hindsfoot.org/fiftybk.html



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++++Message 5988. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: Louisiana

From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/28/2009 4:18:00 PM


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From: t

(tcumming at nc.rr.com)


Louisiana
GV Mar45, in the News Circuit column:

"A.A.s of the lush,

bayou country of Baton Rouge, Louisiana,

wisely stress the lack of "moral lecturing"

in their publicity."
GV Apr45, in the News Circuit column:

"Our school system is gradually being instructed

in A. A. Paul C. Young of the Louisiana

State University faculty was recently

quoted in the state newspapers for his enthusiastic

support of our program."


GV Dec45, in the News Circuit column:

noted Louisiana as being one of the eleven states represented at the first

regional AA convention in Birmingham Ala.
GV Feb46, in the News Circuit column:

"Baton Rouge, La., A.A.s, at their first anniversary

meeting, were hosts to representative

groups from New Orleans, Covington, Bogalusa,

Hammond, Franklinton, Gonzales, Plaquemine,

and Tylertown, Miss. One of the guest speakers

was the Rev. Henry A. Rickey of Bogalusa, who

attended the Yale School of Alcohol Studies

last summer; another was Dr. Glenn J. Smith,

superintendent of the East Louisiana Hospital

at Jackson, who spoke of how much the people

of the state were being benefited by the work

of A.A. . . . The 400 members of the eight St.

Louis, Mo., Groups have held their fifth anniversary

meeting. "
GV Mar46, in the News Circuit column:

"A series of seven articles on A.A. have been

prepared by the Shreveport, La., Group and are

now appearing in the Shreveport Times. "


GV Apr46, in the New Groups column mentions- Covington, West Monroe and

Minden,


La.;
GV Apr46, in the New Circuit column:

" A Baton Rouge, La., A.A. spoke at a luncheon of the

Cooperative Club of that city. In the same

state, the Alexandria Group is now holding

meetings in the Salvation Army's Red Shield center.
GV May46, in the New Circuit column:

"Covington, La., A.A.s, whose

membership encompasses Amita, Bogalusa,

Franklinton, Hammond and Ponchatoula, are

running a series of newspaper articles on alcoholism

and A.A."


GV June46, in the New Circuit column:

The New Orleans, La., Group, started March

30, 1943, has grown to an active membership

of almost 200. They have been instrumental in

assisting to organize groups in Covington, Abbeville,

and Pollack, La.; and Tylertown, Miss.

The latest one started on the Mississippi Gulf

Coast includes members from Gulfport, Biloxi,

and other towns in the vicinity. This group

was suggested by the major in charge of the

Veterans Hospital at Gulfport, who is interested

in A.A. work. The same applies to the Marine

Hospital in New Orleans, where the chief psychiatrist

is a friend of A.A. and has made some

several talks before the group."

"...Shreveport, La., members have helped the Minden

Group to get started with two meetings

weekly. . . . "


GV June46, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Monroe.

GV Aug46, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Baton Rouge

(Capital

Area Group).


GV Oct46, in the News Circuit column:

Two more groups, New Orleans and Houston,

have participated in CBS's "Quiz of Two Cities"

program. New Orleans came off the winner.

. . . A.A.s from New Orleans addressed the

Hammond, La., Group; attending were members

from chapters which derived from the original

New Orleans Group: Hammond, Covington,

and Houma, La.; Tylertown and Gulfport,

Miss. Quite a few veterans are coming into the

New Orleans chapter, direct from the Veterans

Hospital -- where the medical staff is 100% for

A.A.
GV Jan47, in the News Circuit column:

"Doctor, Psychiatrist Speak. -- Signing the

letter "A-lways A-chieving," the A.A. Grapevine

correspondent from New Orleans reports

Tuesday night open meetings have heard a

prominent doctor of psychiatry, who agrees

with the A.A. program, and a national business

executive who recommends it. Visitors from

many places have visited the club room at 1113

Chartres Street in the basement of General Beauregard's

former home and good Louisiana coffee

is promised to all who come that way."


GV Feb47, in the News Circuit column:

"Group Branches Out. -- Covington , La.

Group has started to include the towns of Hammond,

Bogalusa and surrounding rural areas

since its founding in November, 1945. After the

usual growing pains about a dozen are continuously

sober with two new members celebrating

their first year at a supper recently. Bogalusa

will have its own group in the near future and

Hammond is expected to have a separate one

soon. The three towns may then hold an open

meeting each month with each town holding its

own weekly meeting. Much cooperation has been

received from the New Orleans Group."


GV Mar47, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Crawley.

GV June47, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Shreveport (Caddo

Group).

GV Jly47, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Maplewood



(Calcasieu

Parish Group).


GV Jly47, in the News Circuit column:

"Still We Spread -- The Calcasieu Parish Group

of A. A. with membership from Lake Charles,

Sulphur and Maplewood, La., has been formed

with other towns nearby listed as Vinton, De

Ridder, De Quincy, Kinder and Jennings. Meetings

are at the Charleston Hotel in Lake Charles,

Room 201 at 7:30 on Thursday. The phone number

is Lake Charles 4287 and the post office box

2584, Maplewood. "


GV Jly47, in the Clip Sheet column:

"New Orleans, La., States: "This evening A.A.

makes one of its rare public appearances, the

purpose being to explain to the public its manner

of throwing the life-line to tragic, helpless and

all but hopeless members of society. New Orleans

has its share, and probably more, of the

300,000 alcoholics in the nation and the 7,000,000

persons in the country who drink more than they

should or is good for them. The excessive drinker

has a sickness, It is not a sickness that yields to

ordinary medical or surgical treatment. it is not

one that can be treated in clinic or hospital with

a good prospect of success. But it can be treated,

and is, with conspicuous success by this organization

of anonymous practitioners."


GV Sept47, in the News Circuit column:

"60 At First Open Meeting -- The Calcasieu

Parish Group held its first open meeting at Lake

Charles, La., in July, with M. H. of Memphis

as the guest speaker and 20 A.A.s and about 40

friends and relatives attending. Not only have

several calls been received by the group since

the meeting; the newspaper announcement of it

also brought forth a couple who were formerly

affiliated with the Kansas City, Kan., and Corpus

Christ! Groups, and didn't know of the existence

of a chapter in their new home."


GV Oct47, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Welch.

GV Feb48, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Houma

GV Mar48, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Hammond

GV June48, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- LaFayette.

GV Jly48, in the New Groups column mentions- LOUISIANA -- Natchitoches; Oak

Grove, Caroll Group.


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++++Message 5989. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Is there a work called Widows of

AA?


From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/28/2009 6:12:00 PM
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One major list of AA pamphlets can be found

on the silkworth.net site.


Early to present pamphlets can be found here,

both those published by the New York AA

office, and those published by various AA

groups, along with their history:


http://silkworth.net/aa/aa_pamphlets.html
Silkworth is a great site -- the answers to

many archival questions can be found here.


Yours in Service,

Shakey Mike Gwirtz

Phila, PA USA

see you at NAW in Ca.


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++++Message 5990. . . . . . . . . . . . Beginnings of AA in Louisiana: Baton

Rouge


From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/28/2009 4:49:00 PM
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The first A.A. meeting in Baton Rouge was held

on December 10, 1944, at 720 Laurel Street.


Tommy H in Baton Rouge
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See Grapevine reference in AAHL Message No. 5988

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/5988

from: t

(tcumming at nc.rr.com)


>GV Feb46, in the News Circuit column:

>"Baton Rouge, La., A.A.s, at their first anniversary

>meeting, were hosts to representative

>groups from New Orleans, Covington, Bogalusa,

>Hammond, Franklinton, Gonzales, Plaquemine,

>and Tylertown, Miss.


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++++Message 5991. . . . . . . . . . . . AA in Louisiana: Beauregard House in

New Orleans (with photos)

From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/28/2009 4:45:00 PM
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Beauregard House at 1113 Chartres Street in

New Orleans:


See Grapevine reference in AAHL Message No. 5988

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/5988

from: t

(tcumming at nc.rr.com)


>GV Jan47, in the News Circuit column:

>"Doctor, Psychiatrist Speak. -- Signing the

>letter "A-lways A-chieving," the A.A. Grapevine

>correspondent from New Orleans reports

>Tuesday night open meetings have heard a

>prominent doctor of psychiatry, who agrees

>with the A.A. program, and a national business

>executive who recommends it. Visitors from

>many places have visited the club room at 1113

>Chartres Street in the basement of General Beauregard's

>former home and good Louisiana coffee

>is promised to all who come that way."


This is the famous Beauregard House.
When we go to New Orleans, we stay at a motel

on that same corner of Chartres and Ursulines.


T
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PHOTO OF THE BEAUREGARD HOUSE:
Tommy,
This is the Beauregard House that is being

referred to, isn't it?


http://new-orleans.travelape.com/attractions/beauregard-keyes-house/
In the Old French Quarter of New Orleans, along Chartres Street, lies an

architectural jewel in the Palladian and Louisiana raised-cottage style -

the

Beauregard House.


Built in 1826 by the French auctioneer Joseph LeCarpentier, Beauregard House

stands on land purchased from the Ursuline nuns whose convent is across the

street. Designed by the Spaniard architect Francisco Correjolles, the

cottage


was built as the residence of LeCarpentier. The famous chess master Paul

Morphy


(son of LeCarpentier's daughter and Judge Alonzo Morphy) was born here in

1837.
The building was named after the Confederate hero Beauregard, a native New

Orleanian who rented rooms here after the Civil War. After passing through

the


hands of many owners, the home almost became a macaroni factory in 1925.

That


fate was halted when concerned citizens formed the Beauregard Memorial

Association. The home sat is disrepair until purchased in 1944 by novelist

Frances Parkinson Keys and she commissioned the restoration. She used the

home


as a winter residence and wrote several of her novels here including 'Dinner

at

Antoine's'.


She furnished the home with several original Beauregard pieces and

memorabilia

as well as her own collections. There are five portraits in the home of

Beauregard, his daughter, and his granddaughters which belonged to the

Beauregard family. Ms. Keys had impressive collections - ceiling fans, over

200


dolls from all over the world, and veilleuse (tiny teapots) - all here on

display. The home is a lovely representation of the times. The lower level

of

the raised cottage, originally an above-ground basement, was used for



storage

and a wine cellar.


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OTHER PHOTOS AT:
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Chartres_Street,_French_Quarter
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:BeauregardHouseChartresDown1900s.jpg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Register_of_Historic_Places_listings_i

n_Or\
leans_Parish,_Louisiana [19]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:FQ29Jan07BeauregardHouse3.jpg
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Glenn C. (South Bend, Indiana)
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++++Message 5992. . . . . . . . . . . . Who are you sitting next to?

From: Elisabeth . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/29/2009 2:18:00 PM


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Hi All,
A while ago, www.silkworth.net had a story on their

website called "Who are you sitting next to?"


Does anyone have that story either downloaded or

have a link to it? I can't find it on the website,

it seems to have disappeared. :-(
I used that for the topic in a meeting. It was

about the closed insider "clique" in an AA

group seeing a newcomer/out-of-Towner, and not

acknowledging them at all at the meeting.


After that meeting that I called on that topic

was over and to this day, a lot of the people

in that group are still deliberately welcoming

strangers at meetings, like we are supposed to.


I would really like to get a copy of that story

so I could use it again. Can anyone help?


Elisabeth
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++++Message 5993. . . . . . . . . . . . Spanish AA History

From: juan.aa98 . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/21/2009 9:54:00 AM


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I have found that the first ever Spanish AA literature came out of Mexico in

1947. The Akron A.A. pamphlet was translated in Nuevo Leon in Mexico by a

wife,

Francisca Gonzalez, wanting to get her husband sober. She later divorced him



for

not being able to stay sober. That is the first piece of Spanish AA

literature

to be mass produced.


Dick Perez made the first translation of the AA Big Book into Spanish,

completed

in early 1946 with his wife doing most of the work. It took them three

years.


His version never made it to mass production. It is a mystery what happened

to

it. It was turned over to Bill W. but it is yet to be found.


In late 1947, a Puerto Rican professional translator, Frank Muniz, also

translated the Big Book.


There are four main versions of the book in Spanish: the Puerto Rican,

Mexican,


Salvadorian, and Colombian, and each has its own quirky history. There was

even


a Castillian Spanish version made by Carlos Camara in Mexico in 1962 for the

more "high society" AA readers. For North and South American Spanish

speakers,

it sounded like a translation of the Big Book into Shakespearean English.

But

that is a translation widely used today.


Looking through the different translations and editions from different

countries

-- Mexico, El Salvador, Colombia, Spain, and Puerto Rico -- there are some

words, phrases and ideas lost in translation.


The New York central office pushed so that by 1961 all basic AA material was

available in Spanish. But the gap from 1947-1961 gave rise to

Spanish-speaking

temperance/AA groups that came and went.


The first actual Spanish-speaking group did not actually begin until the

late


1950's, but is still there. The first group in Mexico or anywhere else in

Latin


America was an English-speaking group in the late 1940's.
This gap in the availability of Spanish AA literature was an important

reason


for some of the major divisions in the Spanish program today. So we have the

fact that in Mexico there are now two different central offices, AA Mexico

and

AA Seccion Mexico.


The start of AA in Guatemala, the birth place of the Podium, was very

interesting.


In El Salvador, the Little Red Book was translated very early on, and was

more


widely used than the Big Book during the early days.
The early financial sponsorship of the Colombian AA Central Office by a

Colombian tobacco company shaped some of the struggles in Colombia. The

first

translation of the Big Book in Columbia was done by a typing school, copy by



copy. They were distributed mistakes and all -- not one of those books is

alike.
I am working with New York, Akron, Puerto Rico, Mexico, El Salvador, and

Cleveland to try to piece together more of this information.
There will be a display of this at the National Archive Conference next

month.
> > > The 13th National Archives Workshop,

> > > Sept 24-27, 2009, in Woodland Hills,

> > > California, a western suburb of Los Angeles:

> > > http://www.aanationalarchivesworkshop.com/
In Spanish-speaking AA history, an important contribution was made by

Al-Anons,

the wives of these men, whom they were instrumental in getting sober. The

other


big contribution came from sober AA members willing to translate and publish

non-New York literature helpful to early AA's, like the Little Red Book,

Father

John Doe's Golden Books, and different letters and articles from the



Grapevine

published by now non-existent sobriety publications from the 50's and 60's.


The AA people in Mexico and some of the archivists in the US have been very

helpful in my search. But any other Spanish literature or information that

anyone would like to share to continue solving some of these puzzles would

be

appreciated.


My email address is:

juan.aa98@yahoo.com

(juan.aa98 at yahoo.com)
I hope to see you at the Archive Conference in September.
God bless
Juan R.
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++++Message 5994. . . . . . . . . . . . Dick Perez''s daughter? (about the

1st Spanish translation)

From: juan.aa98 . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/27/2009 2:18:00 AM
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Does anyone know how to contact Dick Perez's

daughter?


As mentioned in my earlier message, Dick Perez

made the first translation of the AA Big Book

into Spanish, which was completed in early 1946.

His version was never published, as far as I

have to been able to tell, and it is a mystery

what happened to it. It was turned over to

Bill W. but it is yet to be found.
I am now attempting to interview Dick Perez's

daughter, to see if I can find out more. I have

been told that she lives in southern California.

Could any AA historians from California or

Cleveland tell me how I could make contact

with her?


My email address is:

juan.aa98@yahoo.com

(juan.aa98 at yahoo.com)
This would be an important contribution to the

history of Spanish-speaking AA.


God bless
Juan R.
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++++Message 5995. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Who are you sitting next to?

From: aadavidi . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/29/2009 3:02:00 PM


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Google search turned up:
The Home Group: Who's Sitting Next to You?

AA Grapevine, March 1991


See the Grapevine Digital Archive

http://www.aagrapevine.org/da/


Here's the silkworth.net link:
http://silkworth.net/grapevine/home_group.html
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++++Message 5996. . . . . . . . . . . . Who''s sitting next to you?

From: behunter34453 . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/29/2009 4:50:00 PM


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WHO'S SITTING NEXT TO YOU?
I know who you are. You are "X" who attends the ABC Meeting at the

XYZ Club where AAs meet in Anywhere, U.S.A.


I saw you there the other night at the eight o'clock meeting. I don't

know how long you've been sober, but I know you've been coming around

for a while because you spoke to a lot of people who knew you.
I wasn't one of them.
You don't know who I am. I wandered into your meeting place alone the

other night, a stranger in a strange town. I got a cup of coffee,

paid for it, and sat down by myself.
You didn't speak to me.
Oh, you saw me. You glanced my way, but you didn't recognize me, so

you quickly averted your eyes and sought out a familiar face.


I sat there through the meeting.
It was okay, a slightly different format but basically the same kind

of meeting as the one I go to at home.


The topic was gratitude. You and your friends spoke about how much AA

means to you. You talked about the camaraderie in your meeting place.

You said how much the people there had helped you when you first came

through the door - how they extended the hand of friendship to make

you feel welcome, and asked you to come back.
And I wondered where they had gone, those nice people who made your

entrance so welcoming and so comfortable.


You talked about how the newcomer is the life blood of AA. I agree,

but I didn't say so. In fact, I didn't share in your meeting. I

signed my name in the book that was passed around, but the

chairperson didn't refer to it. He only called on those people in the

room whom he knew.
So who am I? You don't know, because you didn't bother to find out.

Although yours was a closed meeting, you didn't even ask if I

belonged there.
It might have been my first meeting. I could have been full of fear

and distrust, knowing AA wouldn't work any better than anything else

I'd tried, and I would have left convinced that I was right.
I might have been suicidal, grasping at one last straw, hoping

someone would reach out and pull me from the pit of loathing and

self-pity from which, by myself, I could find no escape.
I might have been a student with a tape recorder in my pocket,

assigned to write a paper on how AA works - someone who shouldn't

have been permitted to sit there at all but could have been directed

to an open meeting to learn what I needed to know.


Or I could have been sent by the courts, wanting to know more, but

afraid to ask.


It happens that I was none of the above.
I was just an ordinary drunk with a few years of sober living in AA

who was traveling and was in need of a meeting.


My only problem that night was that I'd been alone with my own mind

too long. I just needed to touch base with my AA family.


I know from past experience that I could have walked into your

meeting place smiling, stuck out my hand to the first person I saw

and said, "Hi. My name is - . I'm an alcoholic from - ."
If I'd felt like doing that, I probably would have been warmly

welcomed. You would have asked me if I knew Old So-and-so from my

state, or you might have shared a part of your drunkalog that

occurred in my part of the country.


Why didn't I? I was hungry, lonely, and tired. The only thing missing

was angry, but three out of four isn't a good place for me to be.


So I sat silently through your meeting, and when it was over I

watched enviously as all of you gathered in small groups, talking to

one another the same way we do in my home town.
You and some of your friends were planning a meeting after the

meeting at a nearby coffee shop. By this time I had been silent too

long to reach out to you. I stopped by the bulletin board to read the

notices there, kind of hanging around without being too obvious,

hoping you might ask if I wanted to join you, but you didn't.
As I walked slowly across the parking lot to my car with the

out-of-state license plates you looked my way again. Our eyes met

briefly and I mustered a smile. Again, you looked away.
I buckled my seat belt, started the car, and drove to the motel where

I was staying.


As I lay in my bed waiting for sleep to come, I made a gratitude

list. You were on it, along with your friends at the meeting place. I

knew that you were there for me, and that I needed you far more than

you needed me. I knew that if I had needed help, and had asked for

it, you would have gladly given it. But I wondered . . . what if I

hadn't been able to ask?


I know who you are.
Do you remember me?
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++++Message 5997. . . . . . . . . . . . Dr. Silkworth''s home in Little

Silver, New Jersey

From: silkworthdotnet . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/29/2009 10:17:00 PM
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In the following article, close to the end, it

makes mention of Dr. William Duncan Silkworth,

MD commuting from a small house in Little Silver

to work.
Does anyone have pictures and/or the address

of this little house mentioned in the following

article?
==================================


The Roundtable of AA History

January 10, 1998


WILLIAM DUNCAN SILKWORTH, MD (1873-1951)
From Mike O., of The Just Do It Big Book Study Group of Alcoholics

Anonymous,

DeBary, Florida.
Doctor William D. Silkworth, called, "the little doctor who loved drunks",

began


an indispensable contribution to Alcoholics Anonymous during the early

1930's


from his position as medical director of Charles B. Towns Hospital, 293

Central


Park West (89th street), New York, N.Y. Towns, founded in 1901, was well

known


then as a rich man's drying-out place; a rehab for the wealthy, and it

served a


worldwide clientele. American millionaires, European royalty and oil sheiks

from


the middle east walked its halls, side by side: brothers in humiliation in

bathrobes and slippers.


It was Dr. Silkworth who told Bill Wilson, during the summer of 1933, of the

nature of alcoholism: that, in his opinion, the problem had nothing to do

with

vice or habit or lack of character. It was, he said, an illness with both



mental

and physical components. Silkworth is quoted widely as calling the illness a

combination of "---an obsession of the mind that condemns one to drink and

an

allergy of the body that condemns one to die" or go mad if one continues to



ingest alcohol.
Dr. Silkworth was not the first highly respected authority to write about

alcoholism. Solomon, considered the wise man of his era, wrote about it in

Proverbs, Chapter 23, and Verses 29 through 35. Solomon's Biblical words

seem an


accurate description of the alcoholic of today.
Dr. Benjamin Rush, one of the signers of The Declaration of Independence,

was


the first member of the medical community to write about alcoholism and

suggest


it might be an illness. In a medical paper he wrote in 1784, Dr. Rush said

he

thought alcoholism was "-a disease process." He offered no further clinical



evidence. So: Dr. Silkworth, it appears, was the first medical person to

detail


alcoholism, in writing, as an illness.
Silkworth, thus, disagreed with his employer, Charles B. Towns. Towns, who

had


once claimed to have a "cure" for alcoholism, believed firmly in a

physiological, medical model of addiction. But, he denied that alcoholism,

per

se, was a disease. Silkworth argued that certain individuals were



"constitutionally susceptible to sensitization by alcohol" and that drinking

sparked an allergic reaction. This, he insisted, made it physically

impossible

for an alcoholic ever to tolerate alcohol. Moreover, he said, that problem

drinkers would have to learn and accept this fact as part of their

treatment.


Silkworth played a major role in many of the early recoveries from active

alcoholism, particularly those in New York. It's estimated that he treated

forty-thousand alcoholics during his career. The introduction to his

writings in

the book, "Alcoholics Anonymous" says early AA members considered the

Brooklyn-born Silkworth no less than a medical saint.


Dr. Silkworth advised Bill Wilson to stop preaching at the drunks he was

trying


to help by telling them about his powerful spiritual experience. Silkworth

urged


Wilson to begin, instead, by telling each of the alcoholics that his

condition

was hopeless, a matter of life-or-death. Only then, Silkworth believed,

would


the drunks be willing to listen to a story about a spiritual remedy.
Through no fault of the doctor's, there is disagreement about parts of his

professional history and about his birth year. In Silkworth's biography in

the

book, "Dictionary of American Temperance Biography: From Temperance Reform



to

Alcohol Research, the 1600s to the 1980s," the historian Mark Edward Lender

lists Silkworth's date of birth as July 22, 1877. All other sources used in

this


compilation, which contain a date of birth for Silkworth, including his New

York


Times obituary, agree that Silkworth's birth year was 1873.
It's agreed, generally, that Silkworth graduated from Princeton University

(A.B.


1896) and that he took his M.D. degree from New York University-Bellevue

Medical


School (1899). But, two principal sources, "Pass It On," published by

Alcoholics

Anonymous, and, "Not-God," researched and written by the widely respected

historian Ernest Kurtz, Ph.D and published by Hazleden, offer differing

versions

of his career path thereafter.


"Pass It On," (p. 101) reports Silkworth became a specialist in neurology, a

domain that sometimes overlaps psychiatry, and entered private practice in

the

1920's. It says Silkworth invested his savings in a stock subscription for a



new, private hospital. "Pass It On" says Silkworth's investment came with

the


promise of a staff position when the hospital was built. But, the report

says


Silkworth lost everything in the stock market collapse of 1929. And,"Pass It

On"


quotes Bill Wilson as saying that Silkworth, in desperation, went to Towns

in

1930 for compensation of about forty dollars a week, plus board.


"Not-God," (p. 22) reports that after he received his medical degree from

NYU, Silkworth began a coveted internship during 1900 at Bellevue Hospital,

462

First Avenue (27th. Street), in Manhattan. It says that in 1924-after



completing

specialty training as a neuro-psychiatrist---Silkworth became medical

director

of Towns. "Not-God" notes that Dr. Silkworth estimated his patients' rate of

recovery, until Bill Wilson came along, at "approximately only two percent."
So: "Pass It On" and "Not-God" show a six-year difference in Silkworth's

arrival


date at Towns.
A third source offers a wider time differential but more information about

Silkworth. The respected Journal of Studies on Alcohol, published monthly by

The

Center of Alcohol Studies at Rutgers University, New Brunswick, New Jersey



reports Silkworth arrived at Towns in 1932. An article by Leonard Blumberg,

(Professor of Sociology, Temple University, Philadelphia Vol. 38. No. 11,

1977,

"The Ideology of a Therapeutic Social Movement: Alcoholics Anonymous") says



Dr.

Silkworth worked at Towns from 1932 until his death in 1951.


Silkworth's entire career had a psychiatric emphasis. He was a member of the

psychiatric staff at the US. Army Hospital in Plattsburgh, New York, for two

years (1917-1919) during World War I.
Dr. Silkworth also served as associate physician at the Neurological

Institute

of Presbyterian Hospital in Manhattan from 1919 to 1929. He had also been

connected with Broad Street Hospital.


The Blumberg article leaves room for speculation about the circumstances

under


which Silkworth left the prestigious Presbyterian Hospital in 1929. It

concludes

that he probably was laid off during a staff reduction following the stock

market crash of that same year. The article does not attempt to fill the

time

vacuum of approximately three years until it says Silkworth went to Towns.


Regardless of his starting date at Towns, Wilson said Silkworth's arrival

there


was the turning point in the doctor's life. Nearly all sources agree that he

worked there approximately nineteen years.


Additionally, Dr. Silkworth was a major influence in persuading the

management

of Knickerbocker Hospital in upper Manhattan to set aside a small ward,

beginning in 1945, for the treatment of alcoholics. Knickerbocker was the

first

general hospital in New York to do so. (This is significant because many



general

hospitals at that time would not admit alcoholics as alcoholics. Their

doctors

had to admit them under false diagnoses.) Dr. Silkworth served six years at



Knickerbocker as director of alcoholic treatment, attending an estimated

seven


thousand alcoholics. Teddy R., a nurse who was an AA member, ran the

alcoholism

ward. Figures as to costs at Knickerbocker are unconfirmable. But, the fees

and


other expenses there were much less than at Towns, where patients paid

$125.00


for one week of treatment, during the early and mid-1930's. At

Knickerbocker,

drunks off the street with no financial resources were de-toxified.
William Duncan Silkworth died Thursday morning, March 22, 1951 of heart

attack


at his home, 45 W. 81st. Street, New York. He and his wife, Marie, had lived

in

Manhattan during their later years. But, it's known that he commuted for




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