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++++Message 5971. . . . . . . . . . . . World AA conventions held outside of

U.S. and Canada?

From: CloydG . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/23/2009 11:26:00 PM
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Since AA is all around the world now, are there

World Conventions held outside of the U.S. and

Canada in addition to the every-five-year AA

International Conferences?


In love and service, Clyde G.
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++++Message 5972. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Bill W. and High Watch Farm

From: John Barton . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/23/2009 9:10:00 PM


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See William L. White, "Slaying the Dragon:

The History of Addiction Treatment and Recovery

in America ," pages 172-175.
God Bless
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++++Message 5973. . . . . . . . . . . . Film critic Roger Ebert on A.A.

From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/25/2009 12:00:00 PM


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BREAKING NEWS ROGER EBERT'S "I AM AN ALCOHOLIC"

MOVIE BLOG AUG 25 09


http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/2009/08/my_name_is_roger_and_im_an_alc.html
CONGRATULATIONS Glenn he mentions your

Hindsfoot site and not mine!! (of course mine

is really poorly designed and needs new sitemap)
Roger Ebert is the Chicago Sun-Times Pulitzer

Prize winning film critic, for a short bio see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Ebert
A note to Roger:
WOW what an exciting day although I am somewhat

concerned about the AA anonymity issue and your

post. However there are so many more anonymity

breaks today concerning AA and failed

celebrities. Celebrity failure on the news

networks every day.


What a success story you are, and I am really

excited and proud to read your blog no matter

my concerns!!
I am long time devoted fan and long have

suspected there was a source of the deep

psychological humanism of your movie reviews.

I am sure it comes from being sober. Due to

your constant diligence in writing fantastic

review I always wanted to see more movies.


I am now able to do that (sometimes 2 a day)

and am writing my own capsule reviews on

Netflix and Rotten Tomatoes (ID dfwforeignbuff).

(Sometimes as much 300 words, not much, ha ha.)


I was sober 14 years June 15 2009. It is so

fantastic to tell us about your other secret

to writing good reviews -- STAY SOBER AND AA

WORKS!!
Although the image you have of the Bill W obit

says AA Canada, I sold that obit on ebay a few

years ago but I still have my original image

of the obit and that photo is also on my site.

I am proud of saving that image too!!


Thanks for presenting us so much good info

about AA here and all the pointers to movies

with alcoholism and AA as a subject!!
A longtime fan, editor of AA Bibliography,

LD "P"
eztone at hotmail


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++++Message 5974. . . . . . . . . . . . AA history of Indiana and general AA

archival treasures

From: Robert Stonebraker . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/25/2009 12:48:00 PM
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In addition to Indiana historical photos, also

has good photos of:


books which early AA's read, famed twelfth-

stepper Irwin M.'s home in Cleveland, the

letter from the Alcoholic Foundation with the

first 22 AA groups listed. Also photos of

the early Akron pamphlets, the Cleveland

Sponsorship pamphlet, and early pamphlets from

the Alcoholic Foundation/Works Publishing.
Also photos of the Indiana Home (founded in

Indianapolis in 1945 for alcoholism treatment,

with active AA involvement), and the 1944

Indianapolis pamphlet (with a list of all the

Indiana towns where AA had been started as of

that date).


Bruce C., from Muncie, has developed this

picture-filled 72-page PowerPoint on the AA

history of Indiana. An Adobe Acrobat version

is available at:


http://aamuncie.org/files/History_of_AA_in_Indiana.pdf
Bob S.
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++++Message 5975. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: World AA conventions held

outside of U.S. and Canada?

From: Kimball ROWE . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/24/2009 10:40:00 PM
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If memory doesn't fail me, aren't the confences

sponsored by Intergroup Continental Europe

referred to as "multi-national" conferences?
-----Original Message-----

From: CloydG

Subject: World AA conventions held outside of

U.S. and Canada?


Since AA is all around the world now, are there

World Conventions held outside of the U.S. and

Canada in addition to the every-five-year AA

International Conferences?


In love and service, Clyde G.
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++++Message 5976. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: Nevada

From: t . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/20/2009 11:24:00 PM


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Nevada
GV Feb46, the News Circuit column notes -

Nevada's first group has gotten under way

in Las Vegas. Address: Box 732, Las Vegas,

Nev.
GV Aug46, the New Groups column notes - NEVADA—Reno.


GV Sept46, the News Circuit column notes -

Writing about the Las Vegas, Nevada Group,

with 35 men and women to date, and the new

branch that has been formed by members from

Boulder City and Henderson, a Las Vegas correspondent,

lauding the work of A.A., begins

with: "Last November, when it was announced

that Alcoholics Anonymous had organized in

Las Vegas, a startled woman went to her minister

and complained at the sorry state of affairs.

She declared that things were coming to an

awful fix 'when the drunkards organize'."


GV Oct46, the New Groups column notes - NEVADA—Henderson.
GV Oct46, the News Circuit column notes -

From Northern California comes word that

there has been "considerable opposition to the

A.A. program in Reno, Nevada." But since

some of the Sacramento and Roseville members

—18 in all—went to Reno and held an opening

meet, it is felt that the Reno populace now has

a better understanding of the aims of A.A.


GV Dec46, the News Circuit column notes -

Matches Reno Hours.— Because Reno is

a "24-hour town" the new club house on which

members are working, will be open twenty-four

hours a day if necessary. Members of this Nevada

group will have the use of a library, card room,

club room and coffee bar as counter attractions

to other local activities. Starting with four members

last May the membership grew to 19 in July

with more than 80 now listed on the books although

44 per cent are transient. Some of these

are new and some were members of other groups

in New York, Utah, Arizona, California and

Connecticut. Inquiries have been received not

only from all parts of Nevada, but from Brooklyn,

N. Y., Southern California and even Canada

as a result of an advertisement in one of the

Reno papers. Various members who travel all

over the state and different parts of California

visit any one in these vicinities wishing help and

extend the usual invitation to any other A.A.

members to drop in for a visit. Three new groups,

and one day group are reported at Carson City,

Nev., Sparks, Nev. and Herlong, Cal.


GV Dec46, the New Groups column notes - NEVADA—Carson City, Box 173.

GV Mar47, the New Groups column notes - NEVADA-—Nevada state Prison at

Carson City
GV Apr47, the News Circuit column notes -

In the Nevada state Prison,

at Carson, The first meeting was attended by

14 alcoholic inmates and five members of the

Reno and Carson Groups. The move is supported

by Warden Richard Sheey and Gov.

Vail M. Pittman.
GV Oct47, the New Groups column notes - NEVADA — Fallon, Hawthorne,

Donner Trail Group (Verdi).


GV Jly48, the New Groups column notes - NEVADA—Reno, Group Two.
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++++Message 5977. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: New Hampshire

From: t . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/20/2009 11:27:00 PM


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New Hampshire
GV Apr46, the New Groups column notes - Hill, N. H.
GV June46, the News Circuit column notes -

Members from Boston attended meetings of

two new groups recently: Lawrence, Mass., and

Dover, N. H.


GV Oct46, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE—Manchester.

GV Nov46, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE—Hanover.

GV Jan47, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE: Twin State Group,

Lyme, Box 102.


GV Jan47, the News Circuit column notes -

Growth in New England. — In less than

three years, A.A. groups in Massachusetts have

increased from two to 36, or a gain of 1800

percent, while Connecticut shows a 700 percent

gain, according to a member of the Newtonville,

Mass., Group. Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont

and Rhode Island, starting from scratch, now

have 13 groups. The formation of an efficient

Central Service Committee in Boston last spring

has been a vital factor as was the attendance of

about 600 at the sixth anniversary banquet.

New England groups now include the following,

which the A.A. Grapevine has been asked

to list: Massachusetts: Boston, Brockton, Brookline,

Brookline Village, Cambridge, Cape Cod,

Hyannis and Falmouth, Dorchester, Edgartown,

Fall River, Fitchburg, Greenfield, Haverhill,

Holyoke, Hyde Park, Lawrence, Lynn, Malden,

Mattapan, New Bedford, Newton, Norwood,

Pittsfield, Rutland, Salem, Somerville, South

Ashburnham, South End, South Shore-Quincy,

Springfield, Upham's Corner, Watertown,

Wellesley Hill, Woburn, Worcester, and Lexington;

Connecticut: Ansonia, Bridgeport, Bristol,

Danbury-Bethel, Greenwich, Hartford, Kent,

Manchester, Meriden, Middletown, New Britain,

New Haven, Norwalk, Norwich, Saybrook,

Stamford, Stratford, Torrington, Waterbury,

Westport, Winsted; Maine: Bangor and Portland;

New Hampshire: Dover, Manchester,

Portsmouth and Hanover; Rhode Island: Providence;

Vermont: Bennington, Burlington, Montpelier,

St. Johnsbury and Windsor.


GV Jly47, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE — Nashua;

Portsmouth.

GV Aug47, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE—North Conway.
GV Oct47, the News Circuit column notes -

"A recent affair which sent many A.A.s away on

an overnight trip was the establishment of a new

group at North Conway, N.H., well-known resort.

The opening session was at Mitchell's Ski

Ranch, Kearsarge, N. H., with members from

various groups in Massachusetts, and New Hampshire

lending support . . .

The Portsmouth,

N. H., Group had a gala picnic recently at

Perkins Cove, Ogunquit, Me . . .

The Salem (Mass.)

Group reports that 44 members chartered a bus

to attend a Braves game in Boston while on another

occasion two chartered busses and many

private cars took members and guests to Canobie

Lake Park, Salem, N. H., where there was a softball

game between old-timers and new members

and other entertainment . . .

The Manchester, N. H.,

Group now meets at the Franklin Congregational

Church on Tuesday nights, starting at 8 instead

of 8:30. . . "
GV Oct47, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE—North Conway Group

(Kearsarge), Rochester.


GV Jan48, the News Circuit column notes -

New Hampshire Jottings—East Jaffrey,

a new group started several

weeks ago, held an opening meeting

in the Town Hall on Wednesday

night, Dec. 3, with Massachusetts visitors

providing all the speakers. Malden,

South End, Woburn, Sommerville,

Quincy, Arlington, Medford,

Cambridge, Fitchburg and other Bay

State group members made the trip

by auto to lend support. The group

meets on Saturday nights at the Firemen's

Hall at 8 p.m. . . .

Nashua Group is holding its meetings on Sunday

nights at 8 p.m. at the Church of

Good Shepherd hall.
GV Apr48, the New Groups column notes - NEW HAMPSHIRE—East Jeffrey.
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++++Message 5978. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: Oklahoma

From: t . . . . . . . . . . . . 8/21/2009 12:51:00 PM


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Oklahoma
GV Oct44, the Points of View [letters] column lists -

Dear Grapevine: . . . the Tulsa Radio station,

KVOO, is to give an A.A. quiz program Saturday,

October 7, 1944, at 10:15 P.M. Central

Standard Time. The questions are to be asked

by a doctor, a minister and a controlled

drinker who are not familiar with A.A. The

3 Oklahoma groups will be represented on the

broadcast, referred to only as Mr. A, B, or C.

MC., Tulsa, Oklahoma


GV Nov44, the Points of View [letters] column lists -

Dear Grapevine: Just a line to let you know

that I am receiving my Grapevine and how

much I enjoy it. ... I would like to know if

you would consider sending it to a young man

in the State Penitentiary at McAlester. He

read the copy of the book which is in the

library there and wrote to the Oklahoma City

group and some of us are corresponding with

him. . . . Most of our work in this case will

have to be done by mail and everything will

help. Cody C., Oklahoma


GV Mar45, from the News Circuit column:

Tulsa, Oklahoma, will soon welcome a new member—an

inmate of McAlester Prison, who has been

corresponding with Tulsa A.A.s.


GV Apr45, from the News Circuit column:

Oklahoma's expanding A. A. has now reached to McAlester.


GV Sept45, from the News Circuit column:

Oklahoma City A. A.

have just received their charter from the secretary

of state to operate in that city and

throughout the state .
GV Jan46, from the News Circuit column:

The Tulsa, Okla., Group, which will be two

years old next April and which now numbers

70 members, has opened new club rooms at

114½ North Denver Avenue; about 100 attended

the opening festivities, including members

from Oklahoma City and Muskogee, and

Wichita and Topeka.


GV Feb46, the New Groups column lists - Shawnee, Oklahoma;

GV Apr46, the New Groups column lists - Clinton, Oklahoma;


GV Apr46, from the News Circuit column:

Oklahoma City A.A.s are preparing to establish

a group in Clinton. Shawnee, the latest

town in the Sooner State to form a group, now

has 15 members, and they are steadily rolling

'em in.
GV May46, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—Bartlesville.


GV June46, from the News Circuit column:

Oklahoma City A.A.s are now holding their

meetings in a brand new modernistic, brick

building, the property of the group and strictly

a membership proposition, built from plans

drawn by members, constructed by members,

and paid for from funds contributed by members.

The auditorium seats approximately 400

and the Clubhouse has a dining room, kitchen,

offices, and men's and women's rest rooms. Today's

total membership is over 200 divided into

small groups for discussion meetings.

Two of the Oklahoma City members outlined

the principles of A.A. before the Kiwanis

Club of that city recently. A return engagement

was requested.


GV Aug46, from the News Circuit column:

Five years ago, two Oklahoma City alcoholics,

unknown to each other, wrote to the Central

Office in New York City asking for information.

The office put them in touch with each other.

Today, the Oklahoma City Group has approximately

250 members. It also has a new home,

seating capacity 400. Two adjoining lots have

been bought with the idea of later on building

a big auditorium.

. . . After driving to A.A. meetings in January,

1944, in Oklahoma City, a resident of Tulsa decided

to see if there were not enough Tulsans

who would like to give the program a whirl. In

May, 1944., he and two other alcoholics met. That

was the first session of the Tulsa A.A. Group,

which celebrated its second anniversary in its

own club rooms at 114½ North Denver Ave.

this year. During the first year, the membership

stood at 33, compared to the 97 men and women

on the rolls today.

. . . . A family-style dinner served

by wives of members is the weekly feature of

meetings in Shawnee, Okla., where the Group

now numbers over 35 regular members.
GV Aug46, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—Alva and Atlue.

GV Oct46, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—Ponca City.


GV Oct46, from the News Circuit column:

The non-alcoholic wives of the Tulsa, Oklahoma,

chapter hold regular meetings.
GV Dec46, from the News Circuit column:

Tulsa, Okla., Tribune: "Tulsa bootleggers are

taking an awful beating from one organization in

this city. Members of the Tulsa chapter of Alcoholics

Anonymous at a meeting recently estimated

that when its members quit patronizing

bootleggers their combined 'boycott' cut bootleg

income $190,000 a year."


GV Dec46, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA.—Norman.

GV Jan47, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA: Cherokee; Blackwell;

Cordell.

GV Mar47, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—El Reno; Pauls Valleys;

Hobart.

GV June47, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—Holdenville; Stillwater.


GV June47, from the News Circuit column:

Organized in January, 1946, the Clinton, Okla., Group now

numbers 18 active members and about three

months ago was split into two groups, the other

being at Cordell, with many members attending

sessions of both each week.

. . . A member of the Shawnee,

Okla., Group who works for a Wewoka paper

has been running A.A. articles there, telling of

the program and pointing out that A.A.s from

Holdenville, Ada and other towns have been

attending the meetings.


GV Jly47, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA. — Ada.
GV Jly47, from the News Circuit column:

Tulsa Reports "Happy Group"—When

about 200 A.A.s with an additional 100 relatives

and visitors celebrated the third anniversary of the

Tulsa, Okla., Group recently the general opinion

was that "disagreements are few and bickerings

aren't allowed to occur." Tangible evidence of the

spirit is shown in such items as rent paid in advance

for a year, $6,000 worth of furniture and

equipment and $1,000 in the treasury. A.A. came

to Tulsa in 1944 when a young business man got a

copy of the book and as he had graduated from

several institutions from Texas to New York, began

attending meetings in Oklahoma City, 125 miles

away, twice a week. Then came a luncheon meeting

in Tulsa with visiting A.A.s and two other

prospects including the chief of police. Small office

meetings, then a meeting with Oklahoma City

Group members in a union hall and the group

was really launched. Meeting in various homes,

with wives aiding in serving luncheons, the group

has continued to expand, graduating to larger

meeting places, aided by newspaper and radio

publicity. By 1945 when the group numbered

about 40, a hall was secured and reconditioned as

a clubroom which was formally opened with visitors

from Kansas City, Dallas, Houston and other

cities. Our correspondent writes, "Almost every

conceivable business, profession and trade is represented.

About 25 percent of our members have

never had a slip and probably another 50 percent

have sailed a straight course after getting their

bearings. We have about 20 women members and

some 10 or 12 husbands and wives, both alcoholics.

We have classes for new members, membership

meetings and open houses. We employ a full-time

secretary and clubroom manager and are open

10 or more hours every day. Come out and see us

sometime."
GV Aug47, the Bottoms Up [humor] column notes -

Johnny P., one of the early members in Chicago,

who also helped found the Kansas City

and Oklahoma Groups, and who now lives in

Buffalo, can tell of an experience which is not

unfamiliar to other A.A.s — an encounter with a

prospect's wife who is bent on proving that you

can not only push the horse to water but you

can also make him drink.

Johnny was doing his best to talk to the 12th

Step prospect. But the prospect's wife kept answering

for him. The prospect kept mum. Johnny

tried to explain several times to the wife that

A.A. was a voluntary matter, that the alcoholic

himself had to want to get sober for himself,

that nobody else could take the program for him.

"You should attend meetings," said Johnny to

the prospect. "But it's all up to you. A.A. is

voluntary."

"He'll do it voluntarily, all right," chimed in

the wife. "I'll see that he does."
GV Oct47, from the News Circuit column:

Report from Stillwater — "We have ten

members and are doing fine," happily reports

the correspondent at Stillwatcr, Okla., which

has a comparatively young A.A. group.
GV Nov47, in article "Memphis Figures" concerning attendance at the

recent Memphis convention notes:

Oklahoma, though technically outside the conference

region, reported the third largest number

of individual A.A.s present, with 47.
GV Mar48, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA — Pawhuska, Seminole

GV Apr48, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—Muskogee, Tipton.

GV May48, the New Groups column lists - OKLAHOMA—Tulsa, Pioneer Group.
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++++Message 5979. . . . . . . . . . . . From the Grapevine: Oregon

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