wrote:
>
> This is a question about putting up banners in
> AA meeting rooms, with the 12 Steps, 12 Traditions,
> and 12 Concepts written on them.
>
> I'm from an AA group in Brisbane, Australia.
>
> We had our Group Conscience and put to the vote
> was whether we obtain a Concept Banner for our
> group.
>
> An old timer and very knowledgeable member
> advised that banners can be confusing to newcomers
> (e.g Step 6 and what is written on Step 6 in
> 12x12 two different things Tradition 3 etc.).
>
> He also claimed that Bill W can be quoted as
> saying that he was against the banners.
>
> I have never read or heard this before. I have
> dozens of books and AA info on AA history and
> Bill W, and have been unable to find any info
> on this.
>
> So was wondering if you may have anything on
> the history of the banners and Bill W's thoughts
> on their use (if he ever said anything about
> them) as I am very interested in finding out
> if this was so.
>
> Really appreciate your time
> Thanking you
> Kind Regards Denise
> Member Brisbane Traditions Group
> Australia
>
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++++Message 6303. . . . . . . . . . . . U.S. postage stamp reading:
Alcoholism. You Can Beat It!
From: aalogsdon . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/31/2010 12:07:00 PM
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I have a small photo taken in 1981 showing four
people -- Brinkley Smithers, William Bolger (the
Postmaster), Lois Wilson, and a fourth unidentified
man -- along with a U.S. first-class postage
stamp with the words on it: "Alcoholism. You Can
Beat It!" Just the words, no picture on the stamp.
Who is the fourth man in the photo?
Where can I obtain a copy of this photo?
Thanks.
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++++Message 6304. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: U.S. postage stamp reading:
Alcoholism. You Can Beat It!
From: Charles Knapp . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/3/2010 8:20:00 PM
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I had a copy of that same photo at one time.
Somehow the photo became corrupt and I lost it.
I found it on the Internet a few years ago and
have never seen it since. This was the caption
that was with the photo:
Alcoholism Stamp Issued
First Day Stamp issued, featuring Alcoholism,
August 19, 1981. In celebration four important
individuals, in promoting awareness of Alcoholism
as public health problem pictured:
Walter J. Murphy, Lois Wilson, widow of the
co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous; William
F. Bolger, Postmaster Genera; and R. Brinkley
Smithers; Board member of the NCA and Financier
of the Modern Alcoholism Movement.
Couldn't find anything on Walter J Murphy other
than he became the Executive Director of NCADD,
but not sure of his role in 1981.
Hope this helps
Charles from Wisconsin
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From the original question:
The stamp in question is a U.S. first-class postage
stamp with the words on it: "Alcoholism. You Can
Beat It!" Just the words, no picture on the stamp.
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++++Message 6305. . . . . . . . . . . . AA history book from GSO?
From: sally.kelly1941 . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/1/2010 9:38:00 AM
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Thanks to all who directed me to time lines
for AA history. There is one submitted by a
Michael S to the Fourth Dimension Meetings web
site that appears to be the Arthur S timeline
with updates.
AA HISTORY BOOK: 1950 TO THE PRESENT
It follows the progress, through GSC meetings,
of a planned AA history book, covering the period
since 1950, being prepared by GSO. The last
mention on that time line of that effort is at
the 45th GSC meeting in 1995.
Who knows what became of that effort?
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++++Message 6306. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: AA timeline, Arthur''s
2005-to-present update coming soon
From: M.J. Johnson . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/1/2010 11:35:00 AM
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Have there been any updates to Arthur S.'s
timeline since 2007?
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ARTHUR RESPONDS:
I'll be doing a major update this summer for
2005 to 2010 and offer it to members of AAHL
via email.
Cheers
Arthur
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++++Message 6307. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: The Big Book in the rain barrel
From: tomper87 . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/2/2010 12:33:00 PM
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In "Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age" this story is referred to as a
legend.
Legend is defined as a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by
tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical.
Consequently
there is probably no basis in fact for this story. Not that we can't benefit
from these "wonderful legends".
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++++Message 6308. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: The Big Book in the rain barrel
From: Tom Pasek . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/31/2010 5:32:00 PM
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I can't make any suggestions on the "Tall Tales"
part, but The Grapevine has recently come out
with a new book entitled "A Rabbit Walks into
This Bar.."
It's a great collection of alkie jokes.
Tom Pasek, CEO
Shaggy Dog Solutions, LLC
tom@shaggyd.com
2521 Innisfree Drive
Bakersfield, California 93309
www.shaggyd.com
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From: "Ben Humphreys"
(blhump272 at sctv.coop)
I will submit an old joke I heard about 35 years ago. Most group members had
this long litany introducing themselves when they would speak up in a
meeting.
The sponsor brought in a new comer who was not quite through drinking.
Sponsor says," I am John Doe and through the grace of God and AA, I have not
found it necessary to take a drink to day". He goes on with his sharing.
Now the newcomer takes the floor with, " I am Hasent Been Sober and by the
grace
of God and AA I haven't found it necessary to take a drink today.
His Sponsor whispers to him, "Why you s.o.b. you were drinking this morning.
And the newcomer says, "Yes but it was not necessary."
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++++Message 6309. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Re: Banners with the steps,
traditions, and concepts
From: Jon Markle . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/3/2010 7:07:00 PM
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Tradition 4. Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting
other
groups or A.A. as a whole.
Let the group conscious decide what it wants to do. That's the only answer
that
makes sense here, or the only one that really matters. It doesn't even
matter
whether or not Bill W had anything to say about it or not. It would have
only
been his personal opinion, which carries as much weight as mine or any other
member on this subject.
Groups are always querying a "higher authority" to get a "ruling" on such
things. There isn't any such authority in AA. We learned that a long long
time ago. (hopefully)
So, do what you want to. As long as it does not impact AA as a whole or
another
group, it's really no one's business but that particular group.
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On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:39 PM, diazeztone wrote:
> My opinion -- that is all this is -- if you are
> a traditions group you would certainly have the
> traditions and concepts on the wall.
>
> LD Pierce
>
> --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com,
> "denise200305"
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