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about Gilberto's sobriety and she established a strong communication through the with New York. She spread the news in Monterrey and all over Mexico from August 1945 to June 1946. She translated several AA booklets, translations that were published in local newspapers. Some beer manufacturers tried to stop the publications, but they were too late, thank God. The Monterrey Group was born
and with it a new life was opened to all the alcoholics in Mexico. The group was
subsequently visited by AAs from the U.S., especially Cleveland. In 1946 the Monterrey Group had twenty-five members and appeared in the AA World Directory. In June 1945 and September 1946 the AA Grapevine published articles with news from the group. (Troubles began, caused by shortages of Spanish literature, and when the American visitors failed to come often, the Mexican AAs were dismayed. By the end of the forties, Gilberto M. was the solitary member of the Monterrey Group.)
Mexico City and wrote to New York requesting information about starting a group.
By September 1946, two other AAs, named Lester and Pauline, who were living in Mexico City, got in touch with New York . A Mexican lawyer, Fernando I. got their address from New York and soon a Mexican doctor, Jesus A., joined them,
and the Mexico City Group was born on September 25, 1946. In the April 1947 issue of the Grapevine, an article appeared called "The Mexico City Group Welcomes Visitors." This group is known today as English Speaking Group, and it still opens its doors to all visitors. Another significant event took place about the same time in Mexico City -- the
visit of Ricardo P. an AA from Cleveland, Ohio. He was honorary consul of Mexico
in that city and he had one special reason for his visit: passing on the AA message to Mexican society. Ricardo later translated the Big Book to Spanish, work that took him three years to complete. Finally he gave the finished translation to Bill W., and Bill took his personal Big Book and gave it to Ricardo, writing a beautiful note in it. The first Spanish-speaking group that survived permanently was the Grupo Hospital Central Militar (Military Hospital Central Group). It was founded in December 1956 by a Major Joaquin B. and his wife Irma. They were helped by the Mexico City Group members, especially by a Mexican member, Carlos C. These three people translated the Big Book; their translation was published by the New York office in 1962 and is still in use. In 1957, in my homeland of Merida, Yucatan, two AAs were working to start a group and by 1959 the Grupo Panteon Florido (Flowered Cemetery Group) was registered in New York. Our group had its meetings in the installations of a graveyard, and it was said that this was the only meeting in Mexico ever visited by Bill W. He was supposed to have exclaimed: "It's good that we're meeting in a cemetery so we know that our problem is of life and death. We can choose to be here or out in a grave." By that time in the west of the country, in Guadalajara, Jalisco, there was one
English-speaking group, Chapala 100, founded by Harry O. He dreamed of forming a Spanish-speaking group. Finally he met Estanislao S. and together they formed
the Grupo Tapatio in 1961. It was the start of AA in the center and west of the
country. In September 1960 Reader's Digest magazine in Spanish reprinted an article called "The Strange Cure of Alcoholics Anonymous," by Paul De Kruif. It was read by a lot of alcoholics and motivated some of them to write New York asking for information. They received literature and suggestions to start meetings. So AA meetings started in some cities like Tampico, San Francisco del Rincón, and Morelia. The nineteen-sixties were distinguished by increasing numbers of groups. I have to mention an American AA, Gordon Mc., who made a tremendous effort to pass the message into Central America, Mexico, Caribbean countries, Argentina, and Colombia. This effort was called the Caribbean crusade. The work
of this man succeeded through the sharing of experience through letters, transmitting public information to authorities and professionals, and much more.
later in Tampico and Merida. Also in 1964, national congresses began to be held twice a year. In 1969 the first Mexican conference took place and in December of the same year our General Service Office was started. Since then, every four years our AA population has doubled. God has blessed us with one of the biggest
demographic explosions in the AA world. Mexico has the second largest AA population after the U.S. It would be a lie if I told you that everything is okay. We have troubles, maybe
because we AAs are troublesome -- or I should say, we Mexican AAs. In 1950, when
the AA Traditions were approved, some Mexican AAs thought that they were made
for the Anglo way of thinking, and in 1954 they started a movement called AMAR
(Mexican Alcoholics in Recuperation Association). AA has good relations with them. In 1963 another movement began: CRAMAC (Rehabilitation Centers of Mexican Alcoholics Association). In 1974 several groups called 24 Horas (24 Hours) started up, working to give lodging and food to chronic and poor alcoholics. Around 1980 a separatist movement was formed, called Sección Mexico (Mexican Section). It was begun by some former members of the General Service Office. In 1985 this movement caused the separation of eight service areas. Mexico is celebrating its 50th Anniversary with great faith, as our members and
groups are growing in numbers and in strength, experience, and hope. We are used
to rowing against the current and in the war against alcoholism know that there
are either a lot of battles to fight or a lot of bottles to drink. Fernando Q. Mexico City IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5779. . . . . . . . . . . . World Service Meeting From: arun_shelar2007 . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2009 4:04:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Can anybody give me link to find out WSM final reports and for brief history of World Service Meeting?
Aug. 8 2009 From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/15/2009 12:01:00 PM
Elizabethtown, Pennsylvania on Saturday, Aug. 8, 2009.
Archivists, AA Historians, AA History Lovers, and those interested in learning more about our history are invited to attend. It starts at 9 AM and runs till the afternoon. There is always room for many more.
it becomes available. Yours in Service, Shakey Mike Gwirtz (also going to National Archives Workshop -- Sept. 24-27th, 2009 Woodland Hills, in the Los Angeles area http://www.aanationalarchivesworkshop.com/ ) IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5781. . . . . . . . . . . . RE: Rowland Hazard in New Mexico From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/15/2009 4:32:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I believe $15.00 plus $5.00 postage and handling, 52 pp, 8 1/2 x 11, numerous illustrations of pottery.
AAHL Message 5768 http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/AAHistoryLovers/message/5768 > > The latest issue of the Tularosa Basin Historical Society magazine, devoted to Rowland Hazard and his pottery factory, is now available. > > The name of the magazine is the "Pioneer," and it is available from the Society, phone number (575) 434-4438, email tbhs@zianet, snail mail Tularosa Basin Historical Society, 1301 N. White Sands Blvd., Alamogordo NM, 88310. > >
++++Message 5782. . . . . . . . . . . . Australian Archives publication From: Shakey1aa@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/15/2009 12:37:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII A publication called "An Encyclopedia for Alcoholics Anonymous" has been produced by the Central Service Archives Department of AA Service Office in New South Wales, Australia. The Foreword by David W.(Penrith) states, "This book is intended to bring together in one place as much information, about the twelve step program, its history, events, lore and other information that may be of concern to people that are interested with the Alcoholics Anonymous philosophy. To record the people who pioneered the concepts of the Fellowship (both non-alcoholic and alcoholic) in the U.S.A. and Australia." I do not know the cost but the mailing address is: NSW Central Service Office 127 Edwin St. North Croydon, NSW, 2132 Australia I have looked over the book and it is an excellent history of A.A. 'Down Under.' My good friend Ron C., Australian Archivist and past Trustee, and David W., Co Archivist, have put the A to Z history together so that it is enjoyable for those new and old to AA History.
Lois Wilson and Anne Smith, whose Love and Patience made the advent of Alcoholics Anonymous Possible." Many references to the letters of the Australian AA Archives are included. To those of you who do not know, the first meeting of A.A. in Australia was October 16, 1946. Australian A.A. was also responsible, along with a Philadelphian, Conor F. of Philadelphia, Pennsylvia, for the beginnings of AA in Europe: Ireland in 1946. Conor read an article by Father Tom Dunlea in the "Evening Mail" saying that AA was desperately needed in Ireland. After being told "there are no alcoholics in Ireland," Conor was given a "Brit" by the name of Sackville M. and was told by Dr. Moore of St. Patrick's Hospital (via Eva Jennings, a non-alcoholic social worker) that if he could get this man sober he could get anyone sober.
a wonderful and interesting history of A.A. Yours in Service, Shakey Mike Gwirtz Phila, PA. USA
"The Career Officer" (2nd edition p. 523, 3rd edition p. 517). For a short bio, see:
From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2009 8:46:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Did Rowland Hazard die sober? So far as I know, there is no one alive who can answer that question from personal knowledge. His granddaughter in California was born in the last year of Rowland's life, after her own father's death; her mother, Rowland's daughter-in-law, died a few years ago. I have in any case been unable to get in touch with her. Rowland's surviving son Charles died in the 1990s -- his two other sons died in WW2, his daughter in 1954, her son (in any case born after
his grandfather's death) was killed in Vietnam in 1967. Rowland's wife Helen survived him less than a year. Charles's son Rowland is, I believe, a doctor and teacher in Vermont, but even if he were contacted, I'm not at all sure he'd be able to help. Rowland III never joined AA so far as I know. He died at his office in December
1945, as you know. Since there are some indications that Rowland may have used
alcohol as a way of getting in touch with the Spirit World (as with his late friend Charles Aldrich in 1933-34), and since he lost one son in 1944 and one in 1945, I myself think it likely he would have used alcohol (but possibly something else, given the southwestern connection) to try to communicate with
them before he died in December 1945 -- but that's only my supposition. And in any case he might have been sober again, if only for a short while, when
he died. I see no way of clearing the matter. Of course, if the question is, did he stay sober after he went to Jung (in 1926-8), we know the answer is no. If it is, did he stay sober after his work with the Oxford Group and the Businessman's Committee and Sam Shoemaker, the answer is uncertain, but probably no. But again, did he die sober? My guess is he hadn't had a drink for a while, but
how long that while was, I have no way of knowing. - - - - > From: dolli@dr-rinecker.de > Subject: Re: Rowland Hazard in New Mexico > > Hi, I would like to know if Roland died sober? > I somehow heard that he died drunk and would > like the matter cleared. Dolores >
http://hindsfoot.org/kDub1.html http://hindsfoot.org/kDub2.html
"We do know that Hazard did not remain sober throughout his life, and did drink again after 1934."
"Hazard’s later years seem to have been prosperous enough, although he never did join Alcoholics Anonymous.*** In 1936 he became a member of the Episcopal Church and remained active in several of its organizations. Throughout the latter part of his troubled life, Hazard relied on the fellowship of the Oxford Group (including activities such as his work with Ebby Thatcher in 1934) to aid and comfort him in his struggle with alcohol. It was fellowship that helped him even toward the end of his life, when he was being returned to New York after his 1936 binge."
"The only dark spot occurred in August 1936 when Rowland had a serious drinking bout. A packet of correspondence of Rowland’s brother Thomas documents the binge in New Mexico and Rowland’s return trip to New York, see Thomas P. Hazard Papers, Series 2, Subseries 3: Rowland Hazard III files, RIHS. Stattler cites one letter that proposed enlisting the aid of an Oxford Grouper, Shep C. [Shep Cornell], to help Rowland." IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5784. . . . . . . . . . . . History of AA in the Philippines From: Patricia . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/15/2009 9:46:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Does anyone have an account of the history of AA in the Philippines? thanks Patricia
++++Message 5785. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: World Service Meeting From: M.J. Johnson . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2009 12:40:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII An overview of WSM history is available here: http://www.aa-intergroup.org/cpc/art_worldsvc.html Not sure about the final reports... - - - - On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 4:04 AM, arun_shelar2007 > Can anybody give me link to find out WSM final > reports and for brief history of World Service > Meeting? > > Arun > IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5786. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: African-American Participation in AA Meetings From: Cindy Miller . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2009 9:00:00 AM
traveled the state in the early 60's--encouraging and facilitating the process of setting up the state service structure. He travelled with Ted Rothchild-who was then the Area delegate and Dick Caron. (Dick's importance in Pennsylvania AA history is a whole other story...perhaps Jared could chime in here! ) Lou became the Area 59 delegate for '66/'67, and was a personal friend of Bill W. Mary, his widow, is still VERY active in Al-Anon, and has 53 years, I believe (may be wrong on this one). Lou's son and grandson
are also AA members. I interviewed her in the late 90's, and she donated some of Lou's papers and a tape of him speaking at the 16th Indiana State Convention in April, 1968.
incident where the committee of a Delaware State Convention (I think) wanted to deny a black speaker .... And this was the late '60's. Louis cited the 3rd Tradition -- the letters flew back-and-forth, with the result that Louis did end up speaking--but he was VERY hurt.
but don't know where they are now. Cindy Miller Philadelphia, PA - - - - On Jun 15, 2009, at 4:36 PM, J. Lobdell wrote: > > Lou R., African-American, was elected Delegate > from Eastern PA to the General Service Conference > before 1970. His widow, Mary, may still be > alive (she was a frequent and always welcomed > Al-Anon speaker). The Archivist for Area 59 AA > (Eastern Pennsylvania) might have information > on Lou. >
From: Fiona Dodd . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/16/2009 6:16:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Conor F was not "given a Brit by the name of Sackville M." Conor F was introduced to Richard P by Dr Moore. Fiona IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5788. . . . . . . . . . . . Fr. Pfau and Bill W. trip to Mexico From: nuevenueve@ymail.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/17/2009 1:23:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hello Group: Is there any tracking or approximate working schedule of Bill W. and Fr.Pfau's visit to Mexico in 1948?
unfortunately gives no information at all of where they went in Mexico.
of the book and probably narrow the time of the trip down to the specific month, and maybe even the part of the month, by process of elimination -- i.e., it had to be after certain events dated such-and-such (such as Fr. Pfau's first AA talk in Texas) but before certain other events dated such-and-such (such as other talks which he gave later that year).
that Fr. Pfau took (at the urging of his sponsor Doherty Sheerin) after he got sober. Fr. Pfau headed out to the west coast, took a wrong turn in Texas, and ended up being asked to speak in the AA meeting in the town in Texas where he stopped, exhausted, for the night. Fr. Pfau's talk was so successful, that it was the start of his career speaking to AA groups all over the U.S. and Canada. He did finally make it to California on that trip. That was where he met up with Bill W., and the two of them became good friends. Past that point (establishing the date in 1948 more precisely) the next step would be to check in the New York AA Archives, where there may well be letters and documents talking about where Bill W. was at that time in 1948.
Does anyone know about Bill W.'s travel schedule during this period?
in AA Meetings From: J. Lobdell . . . . . . . . . . . . 6/17/2009 9:53:00 PM
well-known in the field of rehabilitation and established his own rehab (which did not originally but now does bear his name), but I shall refer to him here as Dick C. His predecessors as Delegate, George R. of Jenkintown (chosen by Bill, I believe on the advice of John P. L., later Trustee 1957-61) and Aaron Burr B. of Bethlehem (chosen by Bill, I believe on the advice of Yev G.), were, as noted, chosen from the top down. Dick realized the importance of the 1954 Conference Action giving the right of election to what we now call the GSRs and in his mimeographed newsletter Chit Chat reminded the GSRs (then called GRs) of their right to choose the next Delegate, at a Meeting to be held at a place and time of his choosing (in Reading PA, his town, Nov 1954). He was duly elected, despite having (I believe) less than the recommended length of sobriety. At that time Bill W was still hopeful that the Area (as we now call it) centering on Harrisburg PA would be separated from (Eastern) Pennsylvania, centered on Philadelphia and containing Allentown-Bethlehem-Easton and Scranton-Wilkes-Barre. The new "Area" was apparently to comprise the seventeen current Districts in Eastern PA which were then in Area (we would call it Yüklə 11,49 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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