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> > This is a question about putting up banners in > AA meeting rooms, with the 12 Steps, 12 Traditions, > and 12 Concepts written on them. > > I'm from an AA group in Brisbane, Australia. > > We had our Group Conscience and put to the vote > was whether we obtain a Concept Banner for our > group.
> > An old timer and very knowledgeable member > advised that banners can be confusing to newcomers > (e.g Step 6 and what is written on Step 6 in > 12x12 two different things Tradition 3 etc.). > > He also claimed that Bill W can be quoted as > saying that he was against the banners. > > I have never read or heard this before. I have > dozens of books and AA info on AA history and > Bill W, and have been unable to find any info > on this. > > So was wondering if you may have anything on > the history of the banners and Bill W's thoughts > on their use (if he ever said anything about > them) as I am very interested in finding out > if this was so. > > Really appreciate your time > Thanking you > Kind Regards Denise > Member Brisbane Traditions Group > Australia >
Alcoholism. You Can Beat It! From: aalogsdon . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/31/2010 12:07:00 PM
people -- Brinkley Smithers, William Bolger (the Postmaster), Lois Wilson, and a fourth unidentified man -- along with a U.S. first-class postage stamp with the words on it: "Alcoholism. You Can Beat It!" Just the words, no picture on the stamp. Who is the fourth man in the photo? Where can I obtain a copy of this photo? Thanks. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6304. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: U.S. postage stamp reading: Alcoholism. You Can Beat It! From: Charles Knapp . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/3/2010 8:20:00 PM
Somehow the photo became corrupt and I lost it. I found it on the Internet a few years ago and have never seen it since. This was the caption that was with the photo:
August 19, 1981. In celebration four important individuals, in promoting awareness of Alcoholism as public health problem pictured: Walter J. Murphy, Lois Wilson, widow of the co-founder of Alcoholics Anonymous; William F. Bolger, Postmaster Genera; and R. Brinkley Smithers; Board member of the NCA and Financier of the Modern Alcoholism Movement.
than he became the Executive Director of NCADD, but not sure of his role in 1981.
stamp with the words on it: "Alcoholism. You Can Beat It!" Just the words, no picture on the stamp.
From: sally.kelly1941 . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/1/2010 9:38:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Thanks to all who directed me to time lines for AA history. There is one submitted by a Michael S to the Fourth Dimension Meetings web site that appears to be the Arthur S timeline with updates.
of a planned AA history book, covering the period since 1950, being prepared by GSO. The last mention on that time line of that effort is at the 45th GSC meeting in 1995.
2005-to-present update coming soon From: M.J. Johnson . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/1/2010 11:35:00 AM
timeline since 2007? - - - - ARTHUR RESPONDS: I'll be doing a major update this summer for 2005 to 2010 and offer it to members of AAHL via email.
From: tomper87 . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/2/2010 12:33:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII In "Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age" this story is referred to as a legend.
Legend is defined as a nonhistorical or unverifiable story handed down by tradition from earlier times and popularly accepted as historical. Consequently there is probably no basis in fact for this story. Not that we can't benefit from these "wonderful legends".
From: Tom Pasek . . . . . . . . . . . . 1/31/2010 5:32:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I can't make any suggestions on the "Tall Tales" part, but The Grapevine has recently come out with a new book entitled "A Rabbit Walks into This Bar.." It's a great collection of alkie jokes. Tom Pasek, CEO Shaggy Dog Solutions, LLC tom@shaggyd.com 2521 Innisfree Drive Bakersfield, California 93309 www.shaggyd.com - - - - From: "Ben Humphreys" (blhump272 at sctv.coop) I will submit an old joke I heard about 35 years ago. Most group members had this long litany introducing themselves when they would speak up in a meeting.
found it necessary to take a drink to day". He goes on with his sharing. Now the newcomer takes the floor with, " I am Hasent Been Sober and by the grace
of God and AA I haven't found it necessary to take a drink today. His Sponsor whispers to him, "Why you s.o.b. you were drinking this morning. And the newcomer says, "Yes but it was not necessary." IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 6309. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Re: Banners with the steps, traditions, and concepts From: Jon Markle . . . . . . . . . . . . 2/3/2010 7:07:00 PM
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groups or A.A. as a whole. Let the group conscious decide what it wants to do. That's the only answer that
makes sense here, or the only one that really matters. It doesn't even matter
whether or not Bill W had anything to say about it or not. It would have only
been his personal opinion, which carries as much weight as mine or any other member on this subject. Groups are always querying a "higher authority" to get a "ruling" on such things. There isn't any such authority in AA. We learned that a long long time ago. (hopefully)
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group, it's really no one's business but that particular group. - - - - On Feb 2, 2010, at 10:39 PM, diazeztone wrote: > My opinion -- that is all this is -- if you are > a traditions group you would certainly have the > traditions and concepts on the wall. > > > --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, > "denise200305" Yüklə 25,47 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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