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relaxed and cheerful as he pushed his wife in in her chair. She was sitting with her legs dangling down, smiling as well. I immediately knew that she was a lot better. I began to ask her about her various symptoms she had had previously. After a few minutes she impatiently broke in to say, "Dr. Hoffer, the pain in my back is all gone." She no longer bled from her bowel, she no longer bruised all over her body, she was more comfortable, the pain in her back was easily controlled with aspirin and was gone from her hips, (it had not helped before). She was cheerful and laughed in my office. Her heart was regular at last. I added inositol niacinate 500 mg four times daily to her program.
pull herself up from the prone position on her bed for the first time in 15 years, and she was free of depression. I increased her ascorbic acid to 1 gram four times daily and added vitamin E 800 IU. Because she had shown such dramatic improvement I advised her she need no longer come to see me.
getting along. She said she was making even more progress. I then asked her how had she been able to get to the phone. She replied she was able to get around alone in her chair. Then she added she had not called for herself but for her husband. He had been suffering from a cold for a few days, she was nursing him, and she wanted some advice for him. After another visit October 28, 1983, I wrote to her doctor "Today Mrs. K.V. reported she had stayed on the whole vitamin program very rigorously for 18 months, but since that time had slacked off somewhat. She is regaining a lot of her muscle strength, can now sit in her wheelchair without difficulty, can also wheel herself around in her wheelchair but, of course, can not do anything useful with her hands because her fingers are so awful. She would like to become more independent and perhaps could do so if something could be done about her fingers and also about her hip. I am delighted she has arranged to see a plastic surgeon to see if something can be done to get her hand mobilized once more. I have asked her to continue with the vitamins but because she had difficulty taking so many pills she will take a preparation called Multijet which is available from Portland and contains all the vitamins and minerals and can be dissolved in juice. She will also take inositol niacinate 3 grams daily." I saw her again March 24, 1988. About 4 of her vertebra had collapsed and she was suffering more pain which was alleviated by Darvon. It had not been possible to treat her hands surgically. She had been able to eat by herself until six months before this last visit. She had been taking small amounts of vitamins. She was able to use a motorized chair. She had been depressed. I wrote to her doctor, "She had gone off the total vitamin program about two or three years ago. It is very difficult for her to swallow and I can understand her reluctance to carry on with this. I have therefore suggested that she take a minimal program which would include inositol niacinate 3 grams daily, ascorbic acid 1 gram three times, linseed oil 2 capsules and cod liver oil 2 capsules. Her spirits are good and I think she is coming along considering the severe deterioration of her body as a result of the arthritis over the past few decades." She was last seen by her doctor in the fall of 1989. Her husband was referred. I saw him May 18, 1982. He complained of headaches and a sense of pressure about his head present for three years. This followed a series of light strokes. I advised him to take niacin 3 grams daily plus other vitamins including vitamin C. By September 1983 he was well and when seen last March 24, 1988 was still normal.
Dr. Robert Elliot, Professor of Child Health Research at University of Auckland Medical School is testing 40,000 five-year old children for the presence of specific antibodies that indicate diabetes will develop. Those who have the antibodies will be given nicotinamide. This will prevent the development of diabetes in most the children who are vulnerable. According to the Rotarian for March 1993 this project began 8 years ago and has 3200 relatives in the study. Of these, 182 had antibodies and 76 were given nicotinamide. Only 5 have become diabetic compared to 37 that would have been expected. Since 1988 over 20,100 school children have been tested. None have become diabetic compared to 47 from the untested comparable group. A similar study is underway in London, Ontario. 4. Cancer Recent findings have shown that vitamin B-3 does have anti-cancer properties. This was discussed at a meeting in Texas in 1987, Jacobson and Jacobson. [15] The topic of this international conference was "Niacin, Nutrition, ADP-Ribosylation and Cancer," and was the 8th conference of this series.
interconvertable via a pyridine nucleotide cycle. NAD, the coenzyme, is hydrolyzed or split into niacinamide and adenosine dinucleotide phosphate (ADP-ribose). Niacinamide is converted into niacin, which in turn is once more built into NAD. The enzyme which splits ADP is known as poly (ADP-ribose) polymerase, or poly (ADP) synthetase, or poly (ADP-ribose) transferase. Poly (ADP-ribose) polymerase is activated when strands of deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) are broken. The enzyme transfers NAD to the ADP-ribose polymer, binding it onto a number of proteins. The poly (ADP-ribose) activated by DNA breaks helps repair the breaks by unwinding the nucleosomal structure of damaged chromatids. It also may increase the activity of DNA ligase. This enzyme cuts damaged ends off strands of DNA and increases the cell's capacity to repair itself. Damage caused by any carcinogenic factor, radiation, chemicals, is thus to a degree neutralized or counteracted. Jacobson and Jacobson, conference organizers, hypothesized that niacin prevents cancer. They treated two groups of human cells with carcinogens. The group given adequate niacin developed tumors at a rate only 10% of the rate in the group deficient in niacin. Dr. M. Jacobson is quoted as saying, "We know that diet is a major risk factor, that diet has both beneficial and detrimental components. What we cannot assess at this point is the optimal amount of niacin in the diet... The fact that we don't have pellagra does not mean we are getting enough niacin to confer resistance to cancer." About 20 mg per day of niacin will prevent pellagra in people who are not chronic pellagrins. The latter may require 25 times as much niacin to remain free of pellagra.
In mice, niacinamide increased the toxicity of irradiation against tumors. The combination of normobaric carbogen with nicotinamide could be an effective method of enhancing tumor radiosensitivity in clinical radiotherapy where hypoxia limits the outcome of treatment. Chaplin, Horsman and Aoki16 found that nicotinamide was the best drug for increasing radiosensitivity compared to a series of analogues. The vitamin worked because it enhanced blood flow to the tumor. Nicotinamide also enhanced the effect of chemotherapy. They suggested that niacin may offer some cardioprotection during long-term adriamycin chemotherapy. Further evidence that vitamin B-3 is involved in cancer is the report by Nakagawa, Miyazaki, Okui, Kato, Moriyama and Fujimura [17] that in animals there is a direct relationship between the activity of nicotinamide methyl transferase and the presence of cancer. Measuring the amount of N-methyl nicotinamide was used to measure the activity of the enzyme. In other words, in animals with cancer there is increased destruction of nicotinamide, thus making less available for the pyridine nucleotide cycle. This finding applied to all tumors except the solid tumors, Lewis lung carcinoma and melanoma B-16.
some nutrients including niacin 50 mg 8 to 10 times per day, dicalcium phosphate with vitamin D, vitamins A and D, and liver injections. He found that all the cancer cases were benefited in that they became healthier and in many cases the tumors regressed. In a subsequent report Gerson elaborated on his diet. He now emphasized a high potassium over sodium diet, ascorbic acid, niacin, brewers yeast and lugols iodine. Right after the war there was no ready supply of vitamins as there is today. I would consider the use of these nutrients in combination very original and enterprising. Dr. Gerson was the first physician to emphasize the use of multivitamins and some multiminerals. More details are in Hoffer. [19] Additional evidence that vitamin B-3 is therapeutic for cancer arises from the National Coronary Study, Canner. [2] 5. Concentration Camp Survivors In 1960 I planned to study the effect of nicotinic acid on a large number of aging people living in a sheltered home. A new one had been built. I approached the director of this home, Mr. George Porteous. I arranged to meet him and told him what I would like to do and why. I gave him an outline of its properties, its side effects and why I thought it might be helpful. Mr. Porteous agreed and we started this investigation. A short while after my first contact Mr. Porteous came to my office at University Hospital. He wanted to take nicotinic acid himself, he told me, so that he could discuss the reaction more intelligently with people living in his institution. He wanted to know if it would be safe to do so.
tell me what had happened to him. Then I discovered he had been with the Canadian troops who had sailed to Hong Kong in 1940, had been promptly captured by the Japanese and had survived 44 months in one of their notorious prisoner of war camps.
suffered from severe malnutrition from starvation and nutrient deficiency. They suffered from beri beri, pellagra, scurvy, infectious diseases, and brutality from the guards. Porteous, a physical education instructor, had been fit weighing about 190 pounds when he got there. When he returned home he weighed only 2/3rds of that. On the way home in a hospital ship the soldiers were fed and given extra vitamins in the form of rice polishings. There were few vitamins available then in tablets or capsules. He seemingly recovered but had remained very ill. He suffered from both psychological and physical symptoms. He was anxious, fearful and slightly paranoid. Thus, he could never be comfortable sitting in a room unless he sat facing the door. This must have arisen from the fear of the guards. Physically he had severe arthritis. He could not raise his arms above his shoulders. He suffered from heat and cold sensitivity. In the morning he needed his wife's help in getting out of bed and to get started for the day. He had severe insomina. For this he was given barbiturates in the evening and to help awaken him in the morning, he was given amphetamines. Later I read the growing literature on the Hong Kong veterans and there is no doubt they were severely and permanently damaged. They suffered from a high death rate due to heart disease, crippling arthritis, blindness and a host of other conditions. Having outlined his background he then told me that two weeks after he started to take nicotinic acid, 1 gram after each meal, he was normal. He was able to raise his arms to their full extension, and he was free of all the symptoms which had plagued him for so long. When I began to prepare my report [20] I obtained his Veterans Administration Chart. It came to me in two cardboard boxes and weighed over ten pounds, but over 95% of it was accumulated before he started on the vitamin. For the ten years after he started on the vitamin there was very little additional material. One could judge the efficacy of the vitamin by weighing the chart paper before and after he started on it. Porteous remained well as long as he stayed on the vitamin until his death when he was Lieutenant Governor of Saskatchewan. In 1962, after having been well for two years, he went on a holiday to the mountains with his son and he forgot to take his nicotinic acid with him. By the time he returned home almost the entire symptomatology had returned. Porteous was enthusiastic about nicotinic acid and began to tell all his friends about it. He told his doctor. His doctor cautioned him that he might damage his liver. Porteous replied that if it meant he could stay as well as he was until he died from a liver ailment he would still not go off it. His doctor became an enthusiast as well and within a few years had started over 300 of his patients on the vitamin. He never saw any examples of liver disease from nicotinic acid.
concentration camps since then with equally good results. I estimated that one year in these camps was equivalent to 4 years of aging, i.e. four years in camp would age a prisoner the equivalent of 16 years of normal living. George Porteous wanted every prisoner of war from the eastern camps treated as he had been. He was not successful in persuading the Government of Canada that nicotinic acid would be very helpful so he turned to fellow prisoners, both in Canada (Hong Kong Veterans) and to American Ex-Prisoners of War. These American veterans suffered just as much as had the Canadian soldiers since they were treated in exactly the same abysmal way. The ones who started on the vitamin showed the same response. Recently one of these soldiers, a retired officer, wrote to me after being on nicotinic acid 20 years that he felt great, owed it to the vitamin and that when his arteries were examined during a simple operation they were completely normal. He wrote, "About two years ago, I was hit, was bleeding down the neck. The MDs took the opportunity to repair me. They said the arteries under the ears look like they had never been used."
their response to megadoses of nicotinic acid. This is that every human exposed to severe stress and malnutrition for a long enough period of time will develop a permanent need for large amounts of this vitamin and perhaps for several others.
starvation, malnutrition and brutality is reproducing the conditions suffered by the veterans. Those who survive will be permanently damaged biochemically, and will remain a burden to themselves and to the community where they live. Will society have the good sense to help them recover by making this vitamin available to them in optimum doses? Doses The optimum dose range is not as wide as it is for ascorbic acid, but it is wide enough to require different recommendations for different classes of diseases. As is always the case with nutrients, each individual must determine their own optimum level. With nicotinic acid this is done by increasing the dose until the flush (vasodilation) is gone, or is so slight it is not a problem.
meals and gradually increase it. I usually start with 500 mg each dose and often will start with 1 gram per dose especially for cases of arthritis, for schizophrenics, for alcoholics and for a few elderly patients. However, with elderly patients it is better to start small and work it up slowly.
they will have a flush which will vary in intensity from none to very severe. If this is explained carefully, and if they are told that in time the flush will not be a problem, they will not mind. The flush may remain too intense for a few patients and the nicotinic acid may have to be replaced by a slow release preparation or by some of the esters, for example, inositol niacinate. The latter is a very good preparation with very little flush and most find it very acceptable even when they were not able to accept the nicotinic acid itself. It is rather expensive but with quantity production the price might come down. The flush starts in the forehead with a warning tingle. Then it intensifies. The rate of the development of the flush depends upon so many factors it is impossible to predict what course it will follow.
taking it after a meal, taking aspirin before, using an antihistamine in advance.
an empty stomach, chewing the tablets and the rate at which the tablets break down in liquid.
usually stopping somewhere in the chest but may extend to the toes. With continued use the flush gradually recedes and eventually may be only a tingling sensation in the forehead. If the person stops taking the vitamin for a day or more the sequence of flushing will be re-experienced. Some people never do flush and a few only begin to flush after several years of taking the vitamin. With nicotinamide there should be no flushing but I have found that about 2% will flush. This may be due to rapid conversion of the nicotinamide to nicotinic acid in the body.
suffer from nausea at first, and then if the dose is not reduced it will lead to vomiting. These side effects may be used to determine what is the optimum dose. When they do occur the dose is reduced until it is just below the nausea level. With children the first indication may be loss of appetite. If this does occur the vitamin must be stopped for a few days and then may be resumed at a lower level. Very few can take more than 6 grams per day of the nicotinamide. With nicotinic acid it is possible to go much higher. Many schizophrenics have taken up to 30 grams per day with no difficulty. The dose will alter over time and if on a dose where there were no problems, they may develop in time. Usually this indicates that the patient is getting better and does not need as much. I have divided all patients who might benefit from vitamin B-3 into the following categories.
obvious disease. They are interested in maintaining their good health or in improving it. They may be under increased stress. The optimum dose range varies between 0.5 to 3 grams daily. The same doses apply to nicotinamide. Category 2. Everyone under physiological stress, such as pregnancy and lactation, suffering from acute illness such as the common cold or flu, or other diseases that do not threaten death. All the psychiatric syndromes are included in this group including the schizophrenias and the senile states. It also includes the very large group of people with high blood cholesterol levels or low HDL when it is desired to restore these blood values to normal. The dose range is 1 gram to 10 grams daily. For nicotinamide the range is 1 1/2 g to 6 g. Nicotinamide does not affect cholesterol levels. Side Effects Here are Dr. John Marks' conclusions. [21] "A tingling or flushing sensation in the skin after relatively large doses (in excess of 75 mg) of nicotinic acid is a rather common phenomenon. It is the result of dilation of the blood vessels that is one of the natural actions of nicotinic acid and one for which it is used therapeutically. Whether this should therefore be regarded as a true adverse reaction is a moot point. The reaction clears regularly after about 20 minutes and is not harmful to the individual. It is very rare for this reaction to occur at less than three times the RDA, even in very sensitive individuals. In most people much larger quantities are required. The related substance nicotinamide only very rarely produces this reaction and in consequence this is the form generally used for vitamin supplementation.
lower blood cholesterol levels under medical control for periods of up to 10 years or more and though some reactions have occurred at these very high dosages, they have rapidly responded to cessation of therapy, and have often cleared even when therapy has been continued.
excessive pigmentation have been seen. The tolerance to glucose has been reduced in diabetics and patients with peptic ulcers have experienced increased pain. No serious reaction have been reported however even in these high doses. The available evidence suggests that 10 times the RDA is safe (about 100 mg)." Dr. Marks is cautious about recommending that doses of 100 mg are safe. In my opinion, based upon 40 years of experience with this vitamin the dose ranges I have recommended above are safe. However with the higher doses medical supervision is necessary. Jaundice is very rare. Fewer that ten cases have been reported in the medical literature. I have seen none in ten years. When jaundice dose occur it is usually an obstructive type and clears when the vitamin is discontinued. I have been able to get schizophrenic patients back on nicotinic acid after the jaundice cleared and it did not recur.
preparation. Mullin, Greenson & Mitchell (1989) [22] reported that a 44 year-old man was treated with crystalline nicotinic acid, 6 grams daily, and after 16 months was normal. He then began to take a sustained-release preparation, same dose. Within three days he developed nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, dark urine. He had severe hepatic failure and required a liver transplant. Henkin, Johnson & Segrest found three patients who developed hepatitis with sustained release nicotinic acid. When this was replaced with crystalline nicotinic acid there was no recurrent liver damage. [23] Since jaundice in people who have not been taking nicotinic acid is fairly common it is possible there is a random association. The liver function tests may indicate there is a problem when in fact there is not. Nicotinic acid should be stopped for five days before the liver function tests are given. One patient who had no problem with nicotinic acid for lowering cholesterol switched to the slow release preparations and became ill. When he resumed the original nicotinic acid he was well again with no further evidence of liver dysfunction. I have not seen any cases reported anywhere else. I have described much more fully the side effects of this vitamin elsewhere. [24] Inositol hexaniacinate is an ester of inositol and nicotinic acid. Each inositol molecule contains six nicotinic acid molecules. This ester is broken down slowly in the body. It is as effective as nicotinic acid and is almost free of side effects. There is very little flushing, gastrointestinal distress and other uncommon side effects. Inositol, considered one of the lesser important B vitamins, does have a function in the body as a messenger molecule and may add something to the therapeutic properties of the nicotinic acid. Conclusion Vitamin B-3 is a very effective nutrient in treating a large number of psychiatric and medical diseases but its beneficial effect is enhanced when the rest of the orthomolecular program is included. The combination of vitamin B-3 and the antioxidant nutrients is a great anti-stress program.
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Doctor Bob''s Nightmare From: Glenn F. Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/18/2009 2:39:00 PM
from
the June 18, 1902 New York Times: "The Selectmen of each town appoint a town agent for the dispensing of liquors
upon prescription, and most of these agents, who take half the profits, vend vile liquor and break the law by handing it out to any citizen whom they know as a neighbor, be he a drunkard or not, without the formality of asking to see his prescription." "'Blind pigs' abound, and in the large towns outnumber any other single class of
places of business. Bogus drug stores with barrooms in the rear are a notable
feature of the appointments of these towns and cities. Drinking, therefore, goes
on in Vermont as if there were no law against it; its extent is augmented by the
secrecy and risk attached to it, but little or none of the liquor sold is fit to
drink, and every drink purchased is a toast to disorder and a violation of law."
was referring to, were only allowed to dispense alcoholic beverages to people who had a doctor's prescription for it. When I was a child, there were still country doctors who would tell people with
heart conditions to drink a sip of whiskey every once in a while over the course
of the day, to "calm their nerves" and "help their hearts." There were parts of India during the 1960's where alcoholic beverages were illegal unless you had a certificate from the physician certifying that you were an alcoholic! A friend from India said that there were a large number of people back home who had talked a friendly physician into diagnosing them as alcoholics, even though they
weren't. Tommy H. has found a prescription for whiskey on eBay, a prescription written by a physician, dated July 31, 1928, written for a woman in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania: http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=765521&image=25187733 7&im\
So it sounds like you had to have a doctor's prescription for the alcohol in Vermont at that period -- OR -- and this "or" was the operant word -- have a friendly local Vermont liquor agent who would wink his eye and write down on his
books that you were an alcoholic who was starting to go into the DT's, so you
could get a pint of whiskey from him. Are there any New England historians who know whether this guess on my part might be correct? Glenn C. (South Bend, Indiana) --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "aadavidi" > > In "DOCTOR BOB'S NIGHTMARE" is the following > statement (Big Book page 171): > > "No beer or liquor was sold in the neighborhood, except at the State liquor agency where perhaps one might procure a pint if he could convince the agent that he really needed it. Without this proof the expectant purchaser would be forced to depart empty handed with none of what I later came to believe was the great panacea for all human ills. Men who had liquor shipped in from Boston or New York by express were looked upon with great distrust and disfavor by most of the good townspeople." > > Can anyone offer a clear description of the function of the Vermont State liquor agency in the late 1800's and why a person couldn't purchase all he or she wanted? > > [Dr. Bob was born August 8, 1879 in St. Johnsbury, Vermont, where he was raised. He graduated from Dartmouth College in Hanover, New Hampshire, in 1902.]
> IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5642. . . . . . . . . . . . Book signed by Dr Bob and Bill W From: kentedavis@aol.com . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/19/2009 9:01:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I have heard of a 12th printing of the first edition that was signed by both Dr Bob (his whole name) and Bill Wilson (his whole name). I was wondering if it was a one of a kind. There were not that many times that Bill and Bob were together with a book to sign, especially signing their whole names.
International Convention in 1950? This book was also signed by Lois and Father Pfau.
together that they might have signed a book? Does anyone know of other occasions that when Bill and Bob were together after the book was published in 1939, other than the International Convention in 1950? Has anyone seen other books that were signed by both Bill and Bob? Kent D. 8/8/88 IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5643. . . . . . . . . . . . Red Bank, New Jersey, AA group From: Stephen Aberle . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/19/2009 3:38:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII I am trying to trace the founding (or founders) of the Red Bank Monday night group in Monmouth County, New Jersey.
oldest group in New Jersey -- we will celebrate the group's 68th anniversary in August. That implies a founding date of August 1941. But I have copies of older meeting books from Dec 1941 and Sept 1942, and Red Bank is not listed.
Montclair on May 14th, 1939 and then went to South Orange at the home of Herb Debevoise, continuing what had been started in Montclair. Some of the earliest AA members in Red Bank include Bart Grimsley, Allen Gallagher, and Millie B.
impact of A.A. From: loranarcher . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/21/2009 12:52:00 PM
of 1992 Americans, diagnosed as alcohol abuse/dependence,
OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS http://knol.google.com/k/loran-archer/pathways-to-abstinence-impact-of/33nxp ux3i\
Key findings were: -The results of the present study support the efficacy of the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous to promote abstinence
who continued to attend AA were more likely to achieve abstinence (64%) than those who dropped out of AA (37%) or those who never attended AA (16%)
of increasing age and level of severity of alcohol symptoms.
of the "AA drop outs" attain sobriety or abstinence after a period of AA membership and maintain their abstinence without AA -The unmet need for AA referral is concentrated in the younger age groups, 35% in the 18-29 years group and 30% in the 30-39 years age group
alcoholism researchers. Note especially: 64% of those who continue in A.A. continue to stay sober. Of those who attend A.A. for a while and get sober there, but then stop attending meetings. only 37% remain sober.
stay sober, but only 16% of those who never attended A.A. get sober and stay sober (these people presumbably do that by going to church instead, by act of sheer will power, or whatever). So what is the best way of getting sober, if you are an alcoholic? Going to A.A. meetings. What is the best way to maximize your chances of staying sober, if you got sober in A.A.? Continuing to go to A.A. meetings.
From: katiebartlett79 . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/21/2009 11:34:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Hi everyone, Katie from Big Book Study: The Way Out Can anyone tell me why Dr. Silkworth become intrested in the alcohol field? Many thanks. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5646. . . . . . . . . . . . A.A.''s BB Celebrates 70 Years From: Bill Lash . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/22/2009 8:18:00 AM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII A.A.'s 'Big Book' celebrates 70 years Printed in 58 languages, volume has been credited with saving lives of millions of people worldwide By Jim Carney (Akron Beacon Journal staff writer) Jim Carney can be reached at 330-996-3576 or jcarney@thebeaconjournal.com. Find this article at: http://www.ohio.com/news/43240782.html Published on Sunday, Apr 19, 2009
Book, was published. For 70 years it has helped millions of people worldwide support each other while protecting their identity — thus the avoidance of last names. Sometime this year, it is expected that the 30 millionth copy will be sold. And as Gail, archivist at the Akron Alcoholics Anonymous office, sits over a first edition of the book known and cherished by recovering people since its publication in April 1939, she talks of the power of its words.
years and archivist in Akron since 1983. Alcoholics Anonymous was founded in Akron on June 10, 1935. Next year will be the organization's 75th anniversary. Every year in June, Akron hosts Founders Day and more than 12,000 people from around the world converge to remember the founding of the A.A. movement. Founders Day events this year are June 12-14. While A.A. does not keep formal membership lists, the group estimates there are nearly 2 million members worldwide who gather in nearly 115,000 groups, including about 1.2 million members in the United States who meet in nearly 54,000 groups. The first-edition book, one of 4,800 first printings, is kept in a safe at A.A.'s office at 775 N. Main St. The rare copy was signed June 10, 1948, by A.A. co-founders Dr. Robert Smith of Akron and New York stockbroker Bill Wilson. An Akron member donated the book. Also kept in the safe is Dr. Bob's copy of the manuscript. The book has been printed in 58 languages, according to a spokeswoman at the A.A. General Services offices in New York City. Gail said the book is really a history text. She said Wilson wrote most of the first 164 pages, which are still in the most current edition. Included on those pages are the 12 steps that have become the basis of the A.A. program. Following the first 164 pages are individual stories, three-fifths of them Akron people who told of their ''strength, experience and hope'' and their recovery to sobriety through A.A., she said.
by a sober, former newspaper reporter named Jim, an A.A. publication said. He, along with Smith, sought out stories of local people with good sobriety records.
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people, Gail said. Gift from God The Rev. Samuel Ciccolini, executive director of Interval Brotherhood Home, a drug and alcohol treatment facility in Coventry Township, said the book, studied by those in recovery, is nothing short of a miracle.
many as Father Sam. IBH will celebrate its 40th anniversary in 2010. "You see its enduring, life-saving value and you know it had to be more than two recovering men that were that brilliant that put something together. It had to be in God's hands," he said.
was a student at Akron's St. Peter's School in the mid-1950s. The two recovering men each carried a copy of the Big Book, he said. Ciccolini recalls each man holding it up and saying, "This book saved our lives."
The foreword to the first edition begins: "'We, of Alcoholics Anonymous, are more than one hundred men and women who have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body. To show other alcoholics precisely how we have recovered is the main purpose of this book."
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a men's Big Book study group since then. He said the group meets once a week and goes over the first 164 pages, including the chapter Dr. Bob's Nightmare that tells Smith's story. "We read the book and discuss it," he said. Scott said a passage that "registers in my head is we have but a daily reprieve based on the maintenance of our spiritual condition."
away.
Gail said that when the book was written, the Akron A.A. community pushed to call it The Way Out and the New York group thought it should be called simply Alcoholics Anonymous.
From: CloydG . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/21/2009 10:15:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Here is a link that may be helpful: http://aabibliography.com/historyofaa/silkworth/silkworth.htm Clyde, alcoholic ----- Original Message ----- From: katiebartlett79 Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] DR Silkworth
interested in the alcohol field? IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5648. . . . . . . . . . . . Are reproduction Grapevines available? From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/23/2009 2:35:00 PM
looking
for a 1949 Grapevine, June if possible, for yet another AA who is turning 60 this June, born in 1949. Please let me know if you have/know of any .... Thanks!
suzanne.warden at gmail ld pierce aabibliography.com eztone at hotmail
(2) Bill W.''s speech From: jaxena77 . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/21/2009 6:54:00 PM
who
worked with Warden Duffy to set up the prison group there. Apparently, Ricardo was interviewed by a San Francisco journalist in 1943, and the interview was published in the San Francisco Call-Bullentin. Does anyone have this interview? (2) I am also curious if there is a recording or transcription or description of the content of Bill Wilson's speech at San Quentin in the 40s.
From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/25/2009 12:21:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Kate, there is a biography of Silkworth you should seek out: Silkworth: The Little Doctor Who Loved Drunks, the Biography of William Duncan Silkworth, M.D. by Dale Mitchel available at Hazelden
I did not lend it out. LD Pierce aabibliography.com --- In AAHistoryLovers@yahoogroups.com, "CloydG" > > Here is a link that may be helpful: > > http://aabibliography.com/historyofaa/silkworth/silkworth.htm > > Clyde, alcoholic > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: katiebartlett79 > Subject: [AAHistoryLovers] DR Silkworth > > Can anyone tell me why Dr. Silkworth become > interested in the alcohol field? >
++++Message 5651. . . . . . . . . . . . Photos of the Akron (and Australian) AA oldtimer Jim Scott From: Glenn Chesnut . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/26/2009 3:14:00 PM
http://www.aa-oztralia.com/ ) I am wondering if any of you have any pics of Jim Scott, he was an Australian and had a fair bit to do with the editing of the AA Big Book.
looking for photos of Jim Scott, we have one grainy pic of him but nothing else.
information we can get re Jim would be very gratefully received.
quality
pic ... plus any info apart from the general run o' the mill stuff that is around about him. Thanks very much and keep up the good work God Bless Gordy dos 11th of April 1977 ... another grateful recovering alcoholic! AA OZ Unity Recovery website: http://www.aa-oztralia.com/ AA Southern Cross website: http://www.southerncrossaa.blogspot.com/ Australian AOIG website: http://home.vicnet.net.au/~aoig/
http://chat.paltalk.com/g2/group/520563537/ AA Southern Cross meeting room: http://chat.paltalk.com/g2/group/1171665356/ IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5652. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Photos of the Akron (and Australian) AA oldtimer Jim Scott From: Jim Hoffman . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/26/2009 10:04:00 PM
Scott from Ray G., former Dr. Bob's Home Archivist. Although this is pretty grainy I'd be happy to send it to see if it is any better than the one you have. It is 8 X 11. Looks to be of the same one that is on: http://www.barefootsworld.net/origbbstories.html#jims Contact me directly at (jhoffma6 at tampabay.rr.com) Maria ----- Original Message ----- From: Glenn Chesnut To: AAHistoryLovers group
http://www.aa-oztralia.com/ ) I am wondering if any of you have any pics of Jim Scott, he was an Australian and had a fair bit to do with the editing of the AA Big Book. < From GFC, the moderator: this is the Jim < Scott whose story was in the 1st edit. of < the BB as "Traveler, Editor, Scholar," later < revised and called "The News Hawk," see < http://www.barefootsworld.net/origbbstories.html#jims I am a sponsee of the AA Australia archival officer Ian J. and we have been looking for photos of Jim Scott, we have one grainy pic of him but nothing else.
information we can get re Jim would be very gratefully received. I was hoping you folks might have or know of where we could get a good quality pic ... plus any info apart from the general run o' the mill stuff that is around about him. Thanks very much and keep up the good work God Bless Gordy IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5653. . . . . . . . . . . . Whoopee parties From: tsirish1 . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/26/2009 4:08:00 PM IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII Does anyone KNOW the context in which Bill was referring to "plain ordinary whoopee parties"? I don't want guesses or theories; I already have them. I was looking for documented historical fact. Thanks in advance. Keep the Faith!
shorts of the 1930's was called "The Whoopee Party."
YouTube and watch the cartoon: Mickey Cartoons — The Whoopee Party (Sept. 17, 1932) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d7zxYsl67I Also look up whoopee party on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Whoopee_Party GFC IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5654. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Are reproduction Grapevines available? 1949 not 1940 From: diazeztone . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/25/2009 12:16:00 PM
(kroloson at mindspring.com) The lady needs a JUNE 1949 year, Suzanne had a typo. IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ++++Message 5655. . . . . . . . . . . . Re: Are reproduction Grapevines available? From: Tom Hickcox . . . . . . . . . . . . 4/24/2009 6:02:00 PM
until June 1944 so it is unlikely that anyone can come up with one from 1940.
Dr. Bob and Bill W were reprinted and are still available at private sale. The originals are scarce and command a fairly high price. I am not aware of any other reproduced issues. The complete digital archive of Grapevines going back to June 1944 is available online: Yüklə 11,49 Mb. Dostları ilə paylaş:
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